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Old 10-08-2009, 06:21 PM   #51
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I have seen something about the dragon skin stuff somewhere. I think it was on "Future Weapons" on the Military channel. I dont remember for sure but wasnt it some sort of ceramic type stuff that shatters and absorbs the forward energy of the bullet in order to stop it?
It seems to me that I would want some armor inside of it to spread the impact force over a larger area. GRANTED, I'd prefer the pain and wicked nasty bruise and probable broken ribs left behind from being hit as opposed to the penetration of a bullet passing through my internal organs. It looked like some cool stuff though. I wonder what insulating properties it would have if you could skin the entire bus with it??

Now all we need to do is armor the underside of the bus like the Buffalo. I think that what its called. And add bullet proof glass.
And we will have to build a heavy thick steel box to cover up my roof AC. If someone shoots out my condenser and my AC dont work I'm gonna be SUPER PISSED!!

Someone mentioned Runflats.. No way! Get the rear section of a Halftrack and mount the bus on that. Solid rubber or foam filled tires on front. Crap, now we need to add air ride seats from a big truck so Smitty can ride and not compress all the vertabrae in his back.
Feel free to incorporate any of these ideas into your bus Smitty.

How about going amphibious? ................... ok I got no ideas for that.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:34 PM   #52
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There is a link to part of the Dragon Skin from Future Weapons. They tell how it works right off, so no waiting.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:23 PM   #53
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As for going amphibious, wasn't there a guy several years ago who built an RV out of an old fuel trailer for just that purpose?
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:25 PM   #54
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Nevermind the previous post. I found the vehicle I was looking for along with 9 other potential rides. The one from Australia really gives me some space ideas for if I ever get around to actually starting a skoolie...specifically the hydraulically raised bedroom on top of the contraption. Anyway, here's a link to Ten Best survival vehicles:

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Old 10-09-2009, 10:24 AM   #55
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Amphibious!!!!!



I wonder if they do bus conversions?
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:17 PM   #56
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:04 PM   #57
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yep good eye Smitty!

I figure I'm protected against anything. Should a rogue elephant or grizzly bear, or alien spacecraft piloted by alien zombies ever attack my bus, I can put holes in em!
And while I'm making my escape at 45 MPH, If they give chase, I bet I can put holes in their engine block!
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:59 PM   #59
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This could have been a good thread, except some seem to be of the opinion that since it's impossible or damn near unlikely to survive in a school bus facing a nuclear attack or attack from a trained and equipped military unit that there is simply no point in even trying to fortify against any potential scenario.
I think everyone will concede that unless you bury your bus underground and encase it in concrete, you're not gonna make a good fallout shelter out of it, and that little you do is going to protect you against a military assault. But what about the other 99.999% of things that you might encounter?

Life or death might be as simple as keeping a couple 2x4 swinging thugs out of your bus long enough to fire it up and drive off.

I used to live where it was common to have random drive by shootings into houses. I put my childrens beds so they were perpendicular to the street so that while they slept their bodies would provide the smallest possible target for a bullet to hit. Then I built headboards for their beds. They had shelves in it and stuff but it also had a "wall" consisting of 2x4's with thick plywood on either side. To top it off I always parked my vehicles right outside their bedroom wall, between them and the street. A little bit of lumber and a little bit of thought and my kids were much safer sleeping in their beds than the neighbors kids were. Never did have any drive-by's that hit my house, but I sure slept a lot better for my efforts.

So many people feel that if you're thinking about such things that you're living your life in fear and they pity you. They live in a fairy tale world where nothing bad ever happens and even if it does you can't change the outcome anyway so no point in even trying. They compare this to the make believe world of doom, gloom, goblins and bogeymen they think you live in, and they feel superior to you. The truth is that most of us have just seen the evil in some men's hearts and know what they're capable of when they think nobody is looking.

It is true that some people live in paranoid delusions and they'd be nuts even in a hardened bunker. They'd like to pretend that we're all in that category, but most people aren't like that. In my case, in the above story, the fear and sleepless nights are what prompted me to make those changes, and once I did them I never had to worry about it again.

I'm sure there are a boatload more ideas you guys could come up with to make our buses and their occupants safer should some scum-bag decide he's out to do some damage.
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This could have been a good thread, except some seem to be of the opinion that since it's impossible or damn near unlikely to survive in a school bus facing a nuclear attack or attack from a trained and equipped military unit that there is simply no point in even trying to fortify against any potential scenario.
I think everyone will concede that unless you bury your bus underground and encase it in concrete, you're not gonna make a good fallout shelter out of it, and that little you do is going to protect you against a military assault. But what about the other 99.999% of things that you might encounter?

Life or death might be as simple as keeping a couple 2x4 swinging thugs out of your bus long enough to fire it up and drive off.

I used to live where it was common to have random drive by shootings into houses. I put my childrens beds so they were perpendicular to the street so that while they slept their bodies would provide the smallest possible target for a bullet to hit. Then I built headboards for their beds. They had shelves in it and stuff but it also had a "wall" consisting of 2x4's with thick plywood on either side. To top it off I always parked my vehicles right outside their bedroom wall, between them and the street. A little bit of lumber and a little bit of thought and my kids were much safer sleeping in their beds than the neighbors kids were. Never did have any drive-by's that hit my house, but I sure slept a lot better for my efforts.

So many people feel that if you're thinking about such things that you're living your life in fear and they pity you. They live in a fairy tale world where nothing bad ever happens and even if it does you can't change the outcome anyway so no point in even trying. They compare this to the make believe world of doom, gloom, goblins and bogeymen they think you live in, and they feel superior to you. The truth is that most of us have just seen the evil in some men's hearts and know what they're capable of when they think nobody is looking.

It is true that some people live in paranoid delusions and they'd be nuts even in a hardened bunker. They'd like to pretend that we're all in that category, but most people aren't like that. In my case, in the above story, the fear and sleepless nights are what prompted me to make those changes, and once I did them I never had to worry about it again.

I'm sure there are a boatload more ideas you guys could come up with to make our buses and their occupants safer should some scum-bag decide he's out to do some damage.

Very, very good story...good points...and excellent perception. Everyone should read this. I remember my grandparents, from a very different era, going from not locking the door, to locking it, to installing deadbolts. Now we have alarm systems and I bet people of my grandparent's era would have seen home alarms as paranoid. I've had fun with this thread personally but there are also some good ideas in everything from the common sense suggestions to the eccentric.
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