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Old 02-05-2016, 09:15 PM   #21
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Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence of what a skoolie can sell for? I've also spent a lot of time thinking about what a business based around skoolies would look like (haven't we all???)

Based on the numbers I've crunched, the best potential may be in prepping the buses but not actually converting them. This allows people to get their custom build, without the hassle of finding a bus.

To get more in detail, I would set up shop in a state with loose re-titling rules so that the buses could come with an RV title. Buy buses, service all the major systems, gut the interior, put in floors, ceilings, insulation etc and perhaps do roof raises on some. Retitle it as an RV, and you've got the ideal buses for people wanting an easy way to build their own bus...
Lots of us are thinking this.
I just want to buy the good buses at auction and resell them either with or without seats or interior.
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:10 PM   #22
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I think someone approached the main issue:
- custom - has a wide variety of interpretation, and a huge range of budget. I spent the day with Tango and the diifernces are very apparent.

Tango has talent, taste and style, and a very apparent focus on the custom aesthetic.
I, on the other hand, need a box to haul my shite around in.

But my "box" is custom, yet nowhere near the value of a ground-up, custom, one-off build like Tango's.

I would be happy to sell my conversion for $10k, and Tango would be a fool to sell his for less than $30k when he is done, but, would there be a bigger market for a redneck, $10k box, or a $50k, classic, art-bus-conversion?

I don't know, but I would not risk the time and money hoping there is a market for premium, "used" bus-conversions.

It would be awesome to think there is a huge market for an Ideal-skoolie-conversion, show me the evidence
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:32 AM   #23
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Lots of us are thinking this.
I just want to buy the good buses at auction and resell them either with or without seats or interior.
I like this idea. In my opinion it's not really practical with the consumers demands for quality and affordability unless you help put it into perspective. Otherwise they're better off with vans or rv's. If I were to do it though, I would have different stages of pricing.

1. "company approved" DIY ready bus: A school bus which has been mechanically inspected and sold with desired margins (20%?)

2. DIY ready bus for our truckless do gooder: A hollowed out bus with markup + service fee (hourly rate/desired margins).

3. Insulated custom bus

+electricity package
+gas package
+water package

4. etc.

It's worth noting, that it would be good to study/imitate prefab container housing companies.


Other ideas would include

selling warranties at X% of cost.

selling DIY packages/KITS, that include "COMPANY APPROVED" insulation, solar, flooring, whatever. But to make these profitable you'd have to get them shipped from china by the container.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:01 AM   #24
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I already do this for a living. It didnt take an investor to get me started, just a positive winning attitude and about a decade of experience.

I also do consulting on it which is basically the best thing ever.

Everyone wants some of that tiny house money.
well theres plenty of positive winning attitude to go around at my place, so how do you sell the skoolies? do you gut them then sell, build then sell? title?
also what kind of money are you making consulting, ie how are you charging for it?
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Im chargin 30 an hour for anything I do. There isn't a market for prebuilt skoolies that i have found that is profitable. Though I have a friend who is trying to build a spec bus and sell it--we'll see how it goes!

There is a market for making them for people who have the vision and money but not the skills/tools. I like working with people to make their dreams happen and teaching them stuff along the way. It makes them more knowledgeable owners and they can decide what they want and dont want.

I do sell stock school buses that meet my standards and there is a market there. The risk is still present--about 1 in 5 buses we buy at auction aren't resellable due to unseen/unnoticed defects. We generally will part out/scrap/sell at loss those buses. Happend 3 times last year.

Anyone seen the price of scrap iron?? It tripled in the last couple weeks down here!!
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:06 PM   #26
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From a penny a pound to 3 cents a pound?
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:27 PM   #27
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Wow! Now I can make $60 bucks for hauling a ton of it!?
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That makes a lot of sense. You eliminate a lot of the risk by only working with people with a vision from the beginning too (especially since they're buying everything). Sounds like charles has the right idea.

Speaking of scrapping, anyone here ever scrap a full bus?
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When I "cleaned my yard" in prep for buying a bus, I sold 21K pounds at an average 12.50 a hundred and paid for my bus and 90% of what I did with cash.
My bus was 2K higher that summer than the year before due to China buying scrap.
Now at 1.85 for shredder steel it is not worth my gas to haul anything off

What is a bus worth? whatever someone will pay for it...
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Scrap down the road from me is $180 a ton. So a 9 ton bus is about 1600, minus what they charge if it's still got tires on it.

I pull all the copper battery cables (thick and nice copper!) and engine components (alt, compressor, PS pump, Injection pump, etc, whatever's still good, and the trans if it's still good. Lights, switches, all the handy goodies and keep them. Buy then you're about a ton lighter but still, probably pull in about 1200 for a big bus.

When it was lower, we would sell them to a farmer who would strip em even more and turn them into chicken coops and pig pens. Pretty funny stuff...
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