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Old 02-12-2014, 02:34 PM   #1
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Found a possible bus!

Hello! I just joined the forum with my new username. For some reason, my old username (I think White99z... possible Heavenly3lues) is no longer available and all the posts have been removed. Could anyone tell me why this is? When I go back and look through old threads that I started, my old posts are gone but the threads are there. Hmmm... Anyways... I am from Grand Rapids, MI. I have been looking at buses for about 1.5 years now and think I have found one to buy buy have a few final questions.

It is a 92 BB TC2000 and is owned by a friend. It is 28 foot and an ex prison bus. I am looking to buy a bus with my girlfriend for full-time living and touring. I am a full-time touring musician and this will be an integral part of our life. Reliability and availability of parts is very important! We have full-timed in a 1977 VW, 1988 Toyota LiteAce (in Australia) and I am currently touring (but not living) in a 2006 Chevy Colorado converted with a bed in the back.

So... the bus is in Florida and is low miles (93,000), an ex prison bus, and professionally converted to run off veggie oil. I met the bus and my friend originally two years ago when they were traveling in it around the East Coast. Now, 2 years later it's for sale. It's a bit higher than we were originally hoping to spend, but I went to check it out last week in Florida when I was down there and we really like it.

Pros:
99% Rust Free
Interior is practically gutted and ready for conversion (they have a crude living setup that we are happy to rip out)
Converted for Veggie Oil (the conversion seems very nice and is professional)
Low Hour Diesel Generator
Ex-Prison Bus (Walls are already skinned and insulated)
Flat-front Bluebird (my favorite style)
Cummins 5.9
Mechanic maintained/serviced every three months for their 2 years of ownership
Factory AC

Cons:
A bit higher purchase price than we were hoping, but it's within our budget still. I am willing to pay extra for a rust free bus since I live in the rust belt!

Questions
The bus has 4.56 gears. Would this be good for highway driving and occasional mountain driving when we are out west?

Also, not being with the bus, is there anyway to tell what trans it has? My friend has 0 mechanical knowledge and has difficulty telling me. I forgot to look at the guide on the site here before I looked at the bus and didn't get the photos needed to tell the type. I looked for a badge and couldn't tell. I am hoping it has the lock up converter as I have read it's good for the mountains.

What are your thoughts? Any questions I should ask? I went down and spent approximately 5 hours with the bus and the body and mechanicals seem very sound. I am looking for the last bits of info I need before jumping on it!
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:53 PM   #2
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Re: Found a possible bus!

Hi there!

I am so sorry that your posts are gone! The site underwent a pretty thorough clean-up this past summer / fall... we had a massive amount of spammers and bot members that were clogging up the server. We ended up banning some e-mail providers (Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.) and when we went through the massive amount of spam posts, some legitimate posts and users were deleted. :/ I have a feeling that this might apply to you and I profusely apologize!

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Old 02-12-2014, 03:10 PM   #3
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Re: Found a possible bus!

This explains why I couldn't re-register with my email address! I had to use the one from my website.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:58 PM   #4
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My biggest question would be the transmission. There really isn't anyway to determine what it has other than to look at it. It is probably an AT545, which is less than great. If it has an MT643 (which has the lock-up torque converter), that would be a very nice combo. 4.56 should be just fine, although you will for sure not be flying up mountains with that engine
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:59 PM   #5
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So... I spoke with my friend/the owner by FaceTime trying to figure out which trans it has. It's difficult for him as he doesn't know mechanics! Anyways I couldn't see the mounting plate on the bus trans, per this thread (viewtopic.php?f=44&t=1824). But, there did appear to be a bolt that could possibly be a temp sending unit (or maybe it's just a drain plug?!?)... Can anyone tell from these pics he sent me? Is it possible it's a different trans other than Allison with this engine/gearing/body combo?



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Old 02-12-2014, 04:00 PM   #6
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My biggest question would be the transmission. There really isn't anyway to determine what it has other than to look at it. It is probably an AT545, which is less than great. If it has an MT643 (which has the lock-up torque converter), that would be a very nice combo. 4.56 should be just fine, although you will for sure not be flying up mountains with that engine
Where would an ID badge be? I couldn't find one when I was there, but I could direct him where to look! I am back in Michigan now and he is in Florida.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:06 PM   #8
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If this pic is showing what a sending unit might look like, there was a hose like this coming out of the passenger side of the transmission

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My biggest question would be the transmission. There really isn't anyway to determine what it has other than to look at it. It is probably an AT545, which is less than great. If it has an MT643 (which has the lock-up torque converter), that would be a very nice combo. 4.56 should be just fine, although you will for sure not be flying up mountains with that engine
Where would an ID badge be? I couldn't find one when I was there, but I could direct him where to look! I am back in Michigan now and he is in Florida.
I can't remember where it is. Maybe I'll go crawl under my bus and look tonight Based on the 3rd pic, it looks like an AT545...
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Passenger side towards back big plate 2x3 maybe
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