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Old 04-23-2019, 08:26 AM   #1
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Front mounted motorcycle rack? Issues?

I'm looking at a solution to carry my motorcycle with me on the bus.

The rear of the bus is getting a hitch installed but that will be used for pulling a toad.

I considered also building a platform back there but Im worried that when turning sharply the toad is going to jacknife on the motorcycle rack. In addition, I want to retain use of the emergency door, and having a motorcycle back there is going to prevent if from opening.

So my other solution was to go to the front.

I threw together a mock up to see what it would look like and where things need to be mounted.











Looking at this setup does anything jump out as an apparent issue?

Things i'm not too concerned about
-Blocking the headlights. (Ill come up with a solution for this, be it snow plow lights up front, or pod lights or something )
- Will it be too ricketey? No that aluminum plate is some semi truck flooring thats doubled up and seam welded. It's been used as a ramp to drive jeeps up onto a trailer. It's plenty strong enough. Underneath I will weld together a bracket from 1/4" square steel and bolt it directly to the frame.

Things I am concerned about.

-Is it legal?
-Will blocking the radiator cause overheating issues? What can i do about this?
-Weight? This assembly with the bike on it will weight about 380 lb. Hanging off the nose of the bus. I'm not too familiar with weight distribution issues and how much the front of the bus can be loaded. Is this a concern?
-Loss of tow hooks on the front. ( bolting location interferes with tow hook location )

Again, It really cant go on the back because of the toad and rear exit door issues.

Any other solution ideas welcome!
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:15 AM   #2
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Put the Bike on the other way around so you don't have to stare at the Handlebars IMO
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:12 AM   #3
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You're essentially blocking the entire radiator and intercooler doing it that way. The ram air effect is what does 90% of your cooling at speed. I don't think blocking that off is a wise choice seeing how easily I see people on here overheating their skoolies all the time.

Maybe you can build some sort of deck off the back of the bus and then attach your hitch to that?

If not, build your platform above the toad hitch and roll with it.

I wouldn't put it how you have it IMO, there are better ways to do it, especially if you have fabrication skills.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:13 AM   #4
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IIRC dredman had a bike with him when he travelled. Look him up and see what he did to haul the bike.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:47 AM   #5
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I considered doing this so that my scooter wouldn't block my rear (garage) door. Ultimately I decided against it because of the headlights and cooling system blockage. I may end up putting something there in the future (generator maybe?) that doesn't cover important things.
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Will you always be pulling your toad? just attach the rack onto the toad, if that is feasible (depending on the vehicle being towed)
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:43 AM   #7
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I wont always be pulling the toad.

The toad is a suzuki sidekick.

I am hesitant to even put the motorcycle on the back of that thing as the whole truck only weights in at about 2300 lb.

It would lift the front wheels off the ground!

A rack above the pivot point of the toad is an option, like high up. like mid windshield elevation of the toad. That sounds silly and dangerous to load a bike 5 feet up off the ground. Not sure how I would even manage that alone...
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:45 AM   #8
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There is about 1.5 ft of room in front of the radiator to the bike. Air also can pass under the bike to the radiator.

Is that not enough airflow?

The fan roars on my bus like a monster all the time. Lifting the doghouse while it's running is like bringing an EF tornado into the cab. Is that not enough airlow?
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There is about 1.5 ft of room in front of the radiator to the bike. Air also can pass under the bike to the radiator.

Is that not enough airflow?

The fan roars on my bus like a monster all the time. Lifting the doghouse while it's running is like bringing an EF tornado into the cab. Is that not enough airlow?
If your fans run all the time you already have a cooling issue and obviously not enough air flow. It's hard enough to keep these things cool. Your idea of the bike in front is a bad idea.
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It is covering a lot of important stuff.
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