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Old 11-07-2007, 12:04 AM   #1
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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

That price does seem pretty high to me. I think $2,000 is the most I'd pay for that bus. I'd offer him $2,000 and if he doesn't take it, leave your name and number. Maybe he'll get desperate to sell it. There's not a whole lot of people dying to buy a school bus. Especially an over priced 21 year old bus. I have read though, that the 9.0 gets pretty good gas mileage. 10-12 miles per gallon! Don't quote me on that. That's what I heard.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:28 AM   #2
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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

I paid $2850 for an '86 Intl, DT466, MT643, 73k original miles. It was converted for the maintanence crew. I thought I paid too much, but I wanted that motor and trans. Mine is a very clean bus. Fires right up and purrs. Not as smooth as the RE Bluebird, but I can't have everything. It's #3 down below. I think $4000 is too much.
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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

Even his lowball of $3500 seems awfully high to me. I paid $1250 ($1407.25 out the door) for my 1989 65 passenger Wayne. It wasn't new by any means, but had less than 90,000 miles on it and has been a spot-on reliable machine. It did need new front tires, but that doesn't account for the price difference between the one in the ad and it...especially when you start looking at mileage, engine (the 6.6 Brazilian is nothing special, but was in production more recently than the 9.0), year, etc.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:50 AM   #4
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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

the 9.0 liter has a reputation of making absolutely no power. Very wimpy. But, they are supposed to get better fuel economy than most of the other diesels. I think that 10+ is almost the rule with a 9 liter.

since it doesn't make any power, it's almost certainly mated to the allison at545 i would assume.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:09 AM   #5
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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

Somewhere between say 45 and 75. You really need to know some of the other factors such as horsepower rating, axle gear ratio, transmission (AT545 or MT643?), tire size, governed RPM, etc to have a clue.

My bus does 65 (faster if it REALLY wants to, but 65 is good) with 4.56 gears, 10.00R20 rubber, AT545, 2600 governed RPMs, and a 185 horsepower 6.6 Brazilian.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:43 AM   #6
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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

If you put new tires on a big bus, you are looking at $1,500 at least! I looked into it a while back. My bus is going to need some new tires soon. You could get retreads for maybe half that. That is what I will probably do.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:56 AM   #7
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4 grand seems quite a lot to be spending on an old school bus.. I'd try and haggle him down to maybe $1750. But if hes already asking 4 grand then maybe $2500's more ideal..

As for tires- New tires for a bus would be rather expensive.. Check you're local bus barn, sometimes they'll give you tires that are still good but they just can't use anymore.

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Re: Going to look at a potential bus

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Well, I called him again to ask my questions. Wanted to do those over the phone so I could easily write down answers. Here's what I got.
  • What model International it is? Not sure - it's an 86 model -muh...not that important [/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Gross Vehicle Weight? says it is under 26,000lbs -that is possible depending on how many seats it has. What it is registered as and what the manufacturer rate it for may vary. It doesn't really matter anyway[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • What Auto Transmission is it? Allison 4 speed -I'd put my money on it being an AT545[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Top speed? says it'll comfortably do 65mph-that is believable though I'd want to test drive it just to be sure[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Gas Mileage? ~10 mpg -perfectly reasonable[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • What are the tire sizes? 9x20 -radials (any ideas where I could best price these? What is the correct way to search for them?) -try the local bus barn and truck tire places. That's really all you have to go on. If your dual spacing will allow for it, 10.00R20's (11x22.5 in tubeless speak) will be slightly taller giving you better mileage and they are going to be a little easier to track down. Of course you're buying new rims then most likely...[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Are they in good shape? usable, maybe half-tread[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Solid or split rims? Dayton split wheel (are these the dangerous ones?) -the dangerous ones haven't been manufactured in probably 40 years, if not more. They are the kind with the big star hub that clamps to the outer wheel that mounts the tire. There are advantages and disadvantages to this wheel type, but I think it's what the majority of us have still.[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • All doors, windows, lights, electricals in working order? all working -good![/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Any leaks? no leaks -again, good![/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Any known issues that will need addressed? paint is rough - faded blue -painting is half the fun anyway[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
  • Reason for selling? started converting it to an RV but never got far with it - not using it -I bet that is the single most common excuse for selling.[/*:m:7bgyj1cm]
I'm still not a huge fan of the price. Let him know you're serious, but not at that price. After he sits on it for a while without getting any real interest he might be willing to negotiate.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:09 PM   #9
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I'm still not a huge fan of the price. Let him know you're serious, but not at that price. After he sits on it for a while without getting any real interest he might be willing to negotiate.
Same here, I paid $1,850 for mine, and it's a 91... this was over 3 years ago so at the time it was 13 years old. There are plenty of good deals out there.
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I agree. The price is too high. I like the deal of no seats though. Took me 3 full days to rid mine of the seats. And then it was a trial to get rid of them. I would def low ball the price till he breaks. I think $2000 is the highest I would go. Don't be shy when haggling. Remember if he doesn't come down you can always find more sweet buses out there. I would not want a gasser! Go diesel, its the best way then when your dont converting it you can go veggie. I personally would walk away from the rusty blue bus. Get a newer bus. Mine I just got has big rust issues and trust me you dont want the ol rusty. Wish I had spent more time looking at the rust.
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