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Old 04-08-2014, 07:57 PM   #11
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Re: Good deal for a bus?

I have read some more build threads and decided that the best choice for me would be rear engine, so thats what ive been looking for in buses. I cant really go less than a 72 rated cap. bus since my family is 6 people, and we also plan to hual stuff that we sell at a flea market on weekends, so i need more than what is in that 1st international i brought up. I also dont like how it had hydraulic breaks, since ive seen them fail before. I narrowed what I think i will get to 3 buses, i cant find a lot within 800 miles or so.

The first one on it is the HDX, I can get it for 4000 so i think thats fair, then a International/Amtran RE that is on the expensive size but i like the rear engine and underbody storage and the last one is a HDX that is going to be at 422 Auction on the 12, I will just bid on it online and see if I can get it.

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Old 04-08-2014, 08:46 PM   #12
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I HATE the mirrors on the HDX. We have 50 of those busses, the rear view mirrors VIBRATE like a cheap motel bed.... Need I say more? The push button transmission has continual issues getting in gear, the dash panel has problems in all of our HDX's as well.. Just letting you know what a rust-free HDX does in Texas..... Your environment may vary... The T466E is the BEST engine built for the International series, LOTS of torque.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:09 PM   #13
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I HATE the mirrors on the HDX. We have 50 of those busses, the rear view mirrors VIBRATE like a cheap motel bed.... Need I say more? The push button transmission has continual issues getting in gear, the dash panel has problems in all of our HDX's as well.. Just letting you know what a rust-free HDX does in Texas..... Your environment may vary... The T466E is the BEST engine built for the International series, LOTS of torque.
Thanks for letting me know about those issues. I will look in to them a little more before I make a purchase. I did see on a local HDX it had modified mirrors. Im wondering if thats why. The 1st HDX doesnt have a push button transmission but the Amtran and the other HDX have the push button ones. Ill see if i can find some with the normal handle ones, I don't care much if its push button or not. Bolth of the RE Amtrans im looking at have the DT466E engine so thats good to know.
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Try and find the variant of the DT [DTA] prior to the E series. One less set of electronics will make you happier.
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Try and find the variant of the DT [DTA] prior to the E series. One less set of electronics will make you happier.
What model year did the switch over to the E series? Im having trouble finding a RE with the DT466. Ive found a few conventionals but that's it.

Also, Do you think air suspension is alot better than spring suspension. I found a 03 International RE on ebay that has spring suspension and im wondering if i should wait for one with air?

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What model year did the switch over to the E series? Im having trouble finding a RE with the DT466. Ive found a few conventionals but that's it.

Also, Do you think air suspension is alot better than spring suspension. I found a 03 International RE on ebay that has spring suspension and im wondering if i should wait for one with air?

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1994 I believe was the change over. I have never seen a RE with a DT. If you found one with air, go for it. I would be far more critical about my engine choice. Mine is spring and it ride quite nice.
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What model year did the switch over to the E series? Im having trouble finding a RE with the DT466. Ive found a few conventionals but that's it.

Also, Do you think air suspension is alot better than spring suspension. I found a 03 International RE on ebay that has spring suspension and im wondering if i should wait for one with air?

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1994 I believe was the change over. I have never seen a RE with a DT. If you found one with air, go for it. I would be far more critical about my engine choice. Mine is spring and it ride quite nice.
Thanks for that. Thats why im not finding any with the DT466. I dont think International made a RE before 96. I guess i will look at some of the front engine International Genius ones then. Im still going to look more at the HDX before I go a lot further with International. I can get a HDX serviced by a Thomas Built dealer 10 minutes away vs the 1 1/2 drive to the closest international dealer. The cheaper HDX has a 8.3 Cummings ISC, and I have read its a good engine. And I dont have to worry about a push button shiftier on that one.
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The 8.3 would be a bonus. A 643 transmission is all mechanical, no electronics. Getting both would be a super package. If you could find it with a transmission retarder, You wouldnt find any better!
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The 8.3 would be a bonus. A 643 transmission is all mechanical, no electronics. Getting both would be a super package. If you could find it with a transmission retarder, You wouldnt find any better!
I think the 643 was stopped before the HDX was made. I think they both have MD3060's or 2000 Series. I think the 98 Amtran has the 643, but im trying to find something a little bigger since its only a 71 passenger. Would a DT466E and a 643 make a good combo?

M1031: I did some more research on the HDX. And I found one of my friends that drives one for a transit service, so it had the transit like setup, with the wheelchair lift and stuff. I got to ride in one for a mile and a half and your right while he was going to fuel it up, those stock mirrors do vibrate ALOT. It seems like there gonna fall off driving down the road. Apparently the newer ones he has drove dont vibrate half as bad, maybe if I see a newer one thats been in an accident ill see if i can buy the mirrors off it. He hasent had any issues with the dash, but the one he drives is an 04 so im not sure if that has anything to do with it. For the push button transmission ones they have had problems but the one im hoping to get doesn't have a push button.
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I think the 643 was stopped before the HDX was made. I think they both have MD3060's or 2000 Series. I think the 98 Amtran has the 643, but im trying to find something a little bigger since its only a 71 passenger. Would a DT466E and a 643 make a good combo?

M1031: I did some more research on the HDX. And I found one of my friends that drives one for a transit service, so it had the transit like setup, with the wheelchair lift and stuff. I got to ride in one for a mile and a half and your right while he was going to fuel it up, those stock mirrors do vibrate ALOT. It seems like there gonna fall off driving down the road. Apparently the newer ones he has drove dont vibrate half as bad, maybe if I see a newer one thats been in an accident ill see if i can buy the mirrors off it. He hasent had any issues with the dash, but the one he drives is an 04 so im not sure if that has anything to do with it. For the push button transmission ones they have had problems but the one im hoping to get doesn't have a push button.
You are probably right about the HDX having the 3060. A 466/643 would be great...I've not ever seen one though. Only DT's I have driven had the 545, which you dont want.

I think the 3060 is all push button. Someone can confirm this to be sure.
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