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Old 04-09-2014, 10:36 PM   #21
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I think the 643 was stopped before the HDX was made. I think they both have MD3060's or 2000 Series. I think the 98 Amtran has the 643, but im trying to find something a little bigger since its only a 71 passenger. Would a DT466E and a 643 make a good combo?

M1031: I did some more research on the HDX. And I found one of my friends that drives one for a transit service, so it had the transit like setup, with the wheelchair lift and stuff. I got to ride in one for a mile and a half and your right while he was going to fuel it up, those stock mirrors do vibrate ALOT. It seems like there gonna fall off driving down the road. Apparently the newer ones he has drove dont vibrate half as bad, maybe if I see a newer one thats been in an accident ill see if i can buy the mirrors off it. He hasent had any issues with the dash, but the one he drives is an 04 so im not sure if that has anything to do with it. For the push button transmission ones they have had problems but the one im hoping to get doesn't have a push button.
You are probably right about the HDX having the 3060. A 466/643 would be great...I've not ever seen one though. Only DT's I have driven had the 545, which you dont want.

I think the 3060 is all push button. Someone can confirm this to be sure.
Your right the 3060 is all push button. I believe the cheaper one has a 2000 series and most of those are the normal ones (not sure exactly what there called). Im gonna confirm that with the seller tomorrow morning. I found a All American RE that has A/C in my price range that im looking at now also, almost the same as yours (2 years newer though) It has the 8.3 Engine, gotta check about the transmission. No one ever says what the transmission is on there Craigslist ad.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:44 PM   #22
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Re: Good deal for a bus?

Ask them if you can grab an oil sample....that would be perfect! Let us know what you find out!
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:59 PM   #23
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It's 350 miles away so unless I decide to go for it I don't think I'm gonna get an oil sample. What is real important about an oil sample, I'm new to diesel stuff and almost all my cars I bought have been new. I would ask my son (he's going to a technical high school in a mechanic program) but he's asleep so I couldn't ask him till tomorrow morning.
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Re: Good deal for a bus?

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It's 350 miles away so unless I decide to go for it I don't think I'm gonna get an oil sample. What is real important about an oil sample, I'm new to diesel stuff and almost all my cars I bought have been new. I would ask my son (he's going to a technical high school in a mechanic program) but he's asleep so I couldn't ask him till tomorrow morning.
Same as you getting a blood test.

Any internal coolant leaks, metal partials (bearing wear), carbon content (ring wear), ect.

My favorite is getting the oil tested every 15,000km before changing it. With a good twin element bypass filter system, I could run my oil 50,000 to 70,000 km before the samples said I needed to change it. It used to cost $15, I have no idea now.

You also want to watch the oil pressure. It should be on the high end when cold right after starting at 2000 RPM (about 60 psi on both mine), but lower at idle. Low oil pressure will show after warm up, at idle. Low oil pressure is caused by bearing wear, oil pump wear, ect. I don't know what normal is off hand, Google will tell you. I'm just to tired from work today to search right now, and it will vary with engine model.

My 92 TC2000 had a blood test before I paid for it. Came back clean bill of health at 435,000km.


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Old 04-09-2014, 11:11 PM   #25
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It's 350 miles away so unless I decide to go for it I don't think I'm gonna get an oil sample. What is real important about an oil sample, I'm new to diesel stuff and almost all my cars I bought have been new. I would ask my son (he's going to a technical high school in a mechanic program) but he's asleep so I couldn't ask him till tomorrow morning.
An oil sample [$25] will tell you all about the engine. Better yet: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/engine-oil-analysis/

Kids are resilient...wake him up! LOL!
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That's a good link. No better explanation around.

They sure do a lot for $25.

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I could have explained the first sentence, but I didnt want to show off.

Even if you dont get one before you buy, definitely get one done when you get it home.
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So some bad news. The All American I was looking at was sold today. I found some other buses though, and this TC2000 I found I really like. It is partaily converted but not done and has all around Spray foam all around.
http://nmi.craigslist.org/for/4407548814.html
Its a little further than i would like but the real hard stuff is done and I might save more by getting that one than doing all of that myself.

I also found this one that is out of my budget but my wife loves it, but as my son pointed out its probably gonna be hard driving that (45ft) plus potentially towing a 18 foot mini van at the back.
http://ocala.craigslist.org/rvs/4413472318.html
I am not real sold on it since its from Florida they probably didn't put a lot of insulation in and most of the stuff we need in the north.

I found this one also
http://athensohio.craigslist.org/cto/4412429153.html
I think it is a little pricy but has the DT446 so it may be a better choice engine wise, Im gonna see about negotiating him down. It has underfloor storage and thats nice.

Any thoughts on any of these?
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Just because someone puts $x into it, doesnt make it worth that much more, so negative on the first one. Dont give the 2nd one a thought. The better of all to me would be the last one, with the DT. But what do I know, I live in MT.
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Boy-i thought OPus would like the 1st because of the color.
I think the first one is a rocking deal at $5k. How much is the spray foam if you were planning on getting it done? or painted? Or windows changed? Or interior framed out? How much time would be saved from starting with a bus full of seats?
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