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Old 10-02-2007, 06:06 PM   #31
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Re: Hard time starting my 5.9 Cummins this weekend

I think the at545
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:24 PM   #32
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The warnings that I got were that you didnt want to use any sort of starting fluid because this motor becomes dependant on it quickly.
How can an engine become dependant on starting fluid?
I don't understand.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:15 PM   #33
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Re: Hard time starting my 5.9 Cummins this weekend

I don't understand that one either... everyone here keeps saying "I'd never use starting fluid in my engine" I'm bettin they'd changed their tone if they were 5 miles into the woods in the middle of nowhere. Humm... starting fluid or likely $1,000's in towing costs...

It was an easy choice for me...
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:59 PM   #34
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Re: Hard time starting my 5.9 Cummins this weekend

Hmmm....I know an engine can become "accustomed" to a certain type of oil and switch to something with a different additives package. Things like the valve seals might not take well to the switch. This is why it is usually recommended that you do not switch to synthetic oil in a higher mileage vehicle. This, however, is not a "feeling." I'm not sure how a bus can start to feel the need to get starting fluid all the time. Perhaps someone can provide some insight there? I've heard it before and it may well be true, but in my own mind I can't figure out why.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:47 PM   #35
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Re: Hard time starting my 5.9 Cummins this weekend

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The warnings that I got were that you didnt want to use any sort of starting fluid because this motor becomes dependant on it quickly.
How can an engine become dependant on starting fluid?
I don't understand.
It's sort of like crack, but for your bus. You don't want your bus to turn into a starting fluid junkie do you?
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:31 AM   #36
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Re: Hard time starting my 5.9 Cummins this weekend

I had a truck driver tell me that once....me being the smartass that I am said it wasn't the truck (insert bus) that was addicted to it, just the driver being to lazy to fix the problem in the first place...... And I wonder why I have so few friends *LOL*
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:03 AM   #37
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Re: Hard time starting my 5.9 Cummins this weekend

demonknight has the answer, the 5.9 should start without either if it doesn't have something wrong with it. find and fix the problem.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:11 AM   #38
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demonknight has the answer, the 5.9 should start without either if it doesn't have something wrong with it. find and fix the problem.
Yeah I did.. I found a few bad fuel lines that were leaking causing the bus to run itself out of fuel. When it would do this it was very hard to start it with air in the fuel lines. I also had a second problem - my batteries could not stand up to several minutes of cranking the engine.

Starting fluid to the rescue... I had to start it on the starting fluid for a few seconds until it pulled the air through the fuel lines and was getting fuel again. Luckily I fixed the fuel problem, so I don't need the starting fluid anymore. Oh but it's staying in the bus, ya never know where it'll break down and how far away you'll be from "diesel safe" starting fluid.

Now to figure out my battery situation - seems one of my batteries is toast and the other one (connected to it in parallel) is being constantly drained by the bad one. Stupid Walmart batteries.
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Judging by Millicent, fuel hoses can leak air into the hose before fuel comes out. The return hose on Millicent's 5.9 looked like an armadillo's back, yet was not wet. After replacing the hoses, the long cranking problem went away.
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I don't understand that one either... everyone here keeps saying "I'd never use starting fluid in my engine" I'm bettin they'd changed their tone if they were 5 miles into the woods in the middle of nowhere. Humm... starting fluid or likely $1,000's in towing costs...

It was an easy choice for me...
Just what I read when I was researching the engine class. Perhaps that information is old and outdated or just plain wrong. But, I have a friend with a 3208 Cat out of a 96 (ish) Topkick that he had to start using Ether in the middle of winter to get the truck started. Now it needs Ether every time...even in the summer. I've been standing at the air cleaner with ether can in hand while he cranked it on more than a few occasions. So I'm just a little more paranoid, I guess.
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