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04-30-2018, 10:50 PM
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#21
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 74
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000 (3904 RE)
Engine: Cummins 8.3TA
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jshaul
Can anyone suggest some unusually tall buses? I'm only 6', but I'm looking to install a generous amount of insulation for extreme heat.
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Not exactly "unusually tall" but a lot of Thomas busses are high-headroom. Look for the roof to bump up just behind the driver's seat, and the side windows should be level or higher than the driver's window and door.
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05-01-2018, 12:26 AM
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#22
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I'm 6'4" and have hardly any spare headroom in a standard tall bus, so mines getting a raise
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05-01-2018, 05:48 AM
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#23
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 164
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DTA360
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That’s what I’m thinking thanks for the replies. There’s also the issue of installing an air conditioner, most every styles drop below the ceiling line. So that and shower room are my two biggest concerns
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05-01-2018, 06:50 AM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jshaul
Can anyone suggest some unusually tall buses? I'm only 6', but I'm looking to install a generous amount of insulation for extreme heat.
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I can't recall who, but someone on the forum says their bus has 6'7" or even 6'8" of headroom.
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05-01-2018, 08:36 AM
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#25
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,751
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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some busses come without the the plywood on the floor(rubber directly on the metal) so there you'll gain close to 3/4" in factory height which can be part of the reason there are so many variances.. or those statingf they have 6'7" height.
-Christopher
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05-01-2018, 08:57 AM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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after raising the roof on this Ward/Amtran, the guy I sold the bus to was able to stand on the wheel wells and still not have his head touch the roof. He's 6'3 IIRC.
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05-01-2018, 04:04 PM
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#27
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
after raising the roof on this Ward/Amtran, the guy I sold the bus to was able to stand on the wheel wells and still not have his head touch the roof. He's 6'3 IIRC.
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I don't really have the skills to raise the roof myself, so it looks like I'll be paying for someone to do it for me. ~2" of insulation on the floor kills an awful lot of headroom, and I have friends who played basketball.
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05-01-2018, 04:10 PM
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#28
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Its not hard, but it takes care to make it LOOK GOOD.
Where you located??
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05-02-2018, 02:40 AM
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#29
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Its not hard, but it takes care to make it LOOK GOOD.
Where you located??
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Wisconsin.
Looking to live in mine full-time, so spending a lot of time figuring out how to do it right. With current rent and property valuations, RV parks are the only way I can afford to move for a new career.
...that, and I'm getting really friggin' tired of black mold in cheap apartments.
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05-02-2018, 11:53 AM
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#30
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 168
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Ward Senator
Engine: 7.3
Rated Cap: 78
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Roof Raise
FWIW: I'm the guy pictured above. Having the roof raised (ECCB is right I'm 6'3) is CRITICAL. You'll be uncomfortable walking around your own home for 2 years. For me, that's unacceptable. With the flooring put in, and with insulation below and above, you're going to lose precious inches. I've already hit my head (too many times to count) at exactly where the transition occurs. 2 years is a long time to suffer through hitting your head every time you stand up or walk around.
I have seen plenty of threads documenting roof raises. If you can hire a welder, all you need is basic handyman skills, time, and a few friends. Most of the stuff I'm doing in the bus is stuff I've learned on YouTube. You can do it too.
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05-02-2018, 12:43 PM
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#31
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Glenwood City, WI
Posts: 4
Year: 1986
Chassis: International
Engine: 6.9 IH Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jshaul
Wisconsin.
Looking to live in mine full-time, so spending a lot of time figuring out how to do it right. With current rent and property valuations, RV parks are the only way I can afford to move for a new career.
...that, and I'm getting really friggin' tired of black mold in cheap apartments.
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Wisconsin resident here as well!! You are more than welcome to come take a look, stand in, investigate my build and see if it is something you want to do or how you want to do it. Lifted 19". More info at https://www.facebook.com/A-Crazier-S...8658653122261/
Still need to get pics on my album here.....
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05-02-2018, 12:52 PM
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#32
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Velocipedic
FWIW: I'm the guy pictured above. Having the roof raised (ECCB is right I'm 6'3) is CRITICAL. You'll be uncomfortable walking around your own home for 2 years. For me, that's unacceptable. With the flooring put in, and with insulation below and above, you're going to lose precious inches. I've already hit my head (too many times to count) at exactly where the transition occurs. 2 years is a long time to suffer through hitting your head every time you stand up or walk around.
I have seen plenty of threads documenting roof raises. If you can hire a welder, all you need is basic handyman skills, time, and a few friends. Most of the stuff I'm doing in the bus is stuff I've learned on YouTube. You can do it too.
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That 10" of extra space sure made the bus feel RIGHT!
You're right- all one needs is a bit of proper planning and material selection, a welder, a couple friends, and lots of will power and determination.
Or if you have a Thomas you may need an actual fabricator/engineer. At least to make it look good.
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05-02-2018, 12:56 PM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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On a Thomas there is a row of rivets that completely surround the roof. I don't know why I haven't seen a roof raised from that point. Seems like it would be easiest. Windows can stay where they are, taper of walls becomes a non issue.
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05-02-2018, 01:00 PM
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#34
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
On a Thomas there is a row of rivets that completely surround the roof. I don't know why I haven't seen a roof raised from that point. Seems like it would be easiest. Windows can stay where they are, taper of walls becomes a non issue.
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Huh?
Can you find a pic to illustrate this?
I just can't picture what you're describing.
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05-02-2018, 01:40 PM
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#35
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 164
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DTA360
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I am interested as well. Only problem is how to brace the roofing? Any ideas?
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05-02-2018, 04:37 PM
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#36
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I quit thinking like an engineer and found issues with this method, like how to weld the new supports with enough overlap if the supports aren't exposed. I need to look closer to the inside empty shell at the roof line to see what going on there.
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05-02-2018, 04:40 PM
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#37
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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A cut and raise below the window should do it
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05-02-2018, 04:45 PM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
A cut and raise below the window should do it
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05-02-2018, 04:47 PM
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#39
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
The roof is only like 2" above the windows. Where would you cut between the tops of the windows and the row of rivets 2-3" above the windows? How do you weld the extension pieces with no support showing about the window? If it were doable, why would you cut above the window instead of just undoing the row of rivets?
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He said BELOW the windows. Where the bus is flat and vertical.
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05-02-2018, 04:47 PM
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#40
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
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I know- doesn't that suck??
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