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Old 12-24-2017, 01:54 AM   #1
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Unhappy Help! Stumped by indestructible green adhesive

I want to do a roof raise on my 2003 Thomas rear engine. In order for that to happen, I need to remove the external skin panels from the ribs/pillars between the windows. On my bus, these panels are held on by screws, so I thought it'd be smooth sailing, but it turns out there's also a layer of some green adhesive/epoxy holding them onto the ribs. This stuff does not want to let go!! I got one of them free after much hammering and prying and cursing, but I nearly ruined the second one and had to give up. Is anyone familiar with this green stuff? It's very hard and solid, not gooey or sticky, and amazingly resilient. Any magic tricks to make it budge? I bet I'm not the only mid-aughts Thomas owner who's tried to do a roof raise...
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:16 AM   #2
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You can try what I did:

I used the air chisel- just lay flat against the panel and BRRRrrrrzzzzt ! It was apart. I re-profiled my chisel edge to be single bevel.

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Old 12-24-2017, 10:24 AM   #3
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What angle did you attack it from? I tried hammering a flat pry bar (essentially a big chisel blade) between the panel and the rib from below, which worked okay on the first panel (left it a tiny bit bent), but failed the second time (bent the panel more severely and didn't break the adhesive).
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Try a heat gun. Worth a shot.
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Old 12-24-2017, 11:09 AM   #5
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Try a heat gun. Worth a shot.
I see what you did there.
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Old 12-25-2017, 12:04 AM   #6
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Hmm, now I'm realizing that this is complicated even more by Thomas' signature slanted windows.... I would pretty much have to do the rib extensions *below* the windows, where the ribs are vertical, meaning I'd also have to at least partially remove the whole outer paneling on the sides of the bus....

Edit: Perhaps I could accomplish it by just unscrewing the top of the panels + rub rail and then cutting the ribs very very carefully without actually moving the panels... Need to investigate more in the daytime.
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Or just add on to the roof...

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Old 12-25-2017, 09:06 AM   #8
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What angle did you attack it from? I tried hammering a flat pry bar (essentially a big chisel blade) between the panel and the rib from below, which worked okay on the first panel (left it a tiny bit bent), but failed the second time (bent the panel more severely and didn't break the adhesive).
angle- air chisel starts into seam at 45 degrees, then lays flatter against panel.

Air chisel is the key word- hundreds of beats per second. It slides the blade between the sheets.

Try hammering putty knife.
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Or just add on to the roof...

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That's what I'm talking about. Hook up that steering linkage so the whole thing can be driven from the VW.

No caffine necessary.
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Old 12-25-2017, 10:37 AM   #10
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That's what I'm talking about. Hook up that steering linkage so the whole thing can be driven from the VW.

No caffine necessary.
You'd get a prime seat for that low bridge
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