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Old 11-10-2015, 11:36 AM   #1
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Hey whazzat thing in that Bluebird?

I'm asking about some sort of ducting or airflow management. Specifically, on a bus I'm considering bidding on.

Go to PublicSurplus.com
click "Search" off the top bar
in the "Keyword" enter "1486919"
You should get one hit, "Bus #26". Click through.
Look at picture 2 of 6.

See all the way in the back, on the curb side? There's a large black duct of some sort right where I'd want to put something else useful, like the corner of my bed. There's a fairly small set of louvers on the outside of the bus corresponding to that location.

What's up with that, all you Bluebird lovers? Is it clean air for the air filter for the engine? Input air for the HVAC? for a cooler of some sort? Can I reroute it to pick up air somewhere else and get right of the intrustion into the passenger compartment?

Also, while you're there, do you see anything out of kilter? Anything that would keep you from bidding on it? It's a Michigan bus, but it appears to be amazinly rust-free for all that. Usually OH and MI buses are rustbuckets by they time they are surplussed. Can it look that good on the outside and still be a nightmare? I don't think I can make an opportunity to get from DC to MI to look at it in the next couple weeks.

Thanks in advance - Dan Fox

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Old 11-10-2015, 11:44 AM   #2
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:15 PM   #3
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Air intake.
Well, I didn't think it was a snorkel.

Air intake for what? And can I relocate it?

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Old 11-10-2015, 12:18 PM   #4
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Air intake for the engine.

It is a rear engine bus.

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Old 11-10-2015, 12:41 PM   #5
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Well, I didn't think it was a snorkel.

Air intake for what? And can I relocate it?

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Old 11-10-2015, 01:00 PM   #6
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Anything can be moved with the right tools, time, and effort.

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Old 11-10-2015, 02:29 PM   #7
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Move the engine!!
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:52 PM   #8
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Move the engine!!
If you want.

I was just thinking more about moving the intake.

I would move the intake to the front of the bus, by going underneath, between the frame rails with a 6 or 8 inch pipe.

This would get you nice clean air. Unlike the factory air intake that gets clogged up completely with dust.

At the shop we run around 80 rear engine buses. Drivers must blow the intake out with compressed air as part of his daily pre trip check list.

That's how bad the factory setups are.

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Well, I didn't think it was a snorkel.

Air intake for what? And can I relocate it?

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Old 11-11-2015, 12:08 PM   #10
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You can't be serious.
I'm dead serious. Me and every other RE bus owner puts the master bedroom there. I don't need/want to loose that much cubic to that thing, nor do I want a noise & heat conduit into the bedroom.

I could run a piece of 6" stainless up the outside like a stack and try to make some stylin' out of it, but it's definitely something to keep in mind.

I'd love to hear from someone who actually owns this setup and find out what their experience with it is like.

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Old 11-11-2015, 12:21 PM   #11
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If you want.

I was just thinking more about moving the intake.

I would move the intake to the front of the bus, by going underneath, between the frame rails with a 6 or 8 inch pipe.

Nat
Wouldn't you then be catching road debris (Paper, dust, rubber) into the pipe and even with a screen, that will be covered and thus restrict the airflow?
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:28 PM   #12
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I'll be sure to call Blue Bird right away and tell them they should move that to a new spot so when someone buys the bus in 10-20 years after it's useful life as a bus is over, it won't interfere with their plans for the master bedroom. I don't know how they could be so thoughtless and not take into consideration that you paid a few thousand bucks for this hundred thousand dollar piece of machinery and now you have to MOVE IT.
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Oh, wait...the bidding is only at just over $500 and with winning bidder is not Dan Fox.
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you would need to move it to rear or front, unless you can go oval and then up the side like you mention, only way to go over 96" or 102" wide is with safety equipment tho'

Since it is just air intake; cover the engine with a platform and make storage underneath sleep platform and then make that corner a cabinet and leave stock parts where they are

also allow for engine maintenance through bed platform w/o destroying everything
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Wouldn't you then be catching road debris (Paper, dust, rubber) into the pipe and even with a screen, that will be covered and thus restrict the airflow?
Where do you think front engine buses get their engine air from?

No different.

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I'd love to hear from someone who actually owns this setup and find out what their experience with it is like.

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I drive a rear engine bus everyday. I just told you how bad they are in my previous post.

Under the bus to the front would be best.

Up the back to the top of the bus would be second best and ugly if not done right.

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I drive a rear engine bus everyday. I just told you how bad they are in my previous post.

Under the bus to the front would be best.

Up the back to the top of the bus would be second best and ugly if not done right.

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What if you topped it with a big bobble head clown like cheech and chong did
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I'm doing external air cleaner cans like big rigs have, laying down.

Looks like nostrils.

One side will be my cabin air, the other will be the engine air intake.

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What if you topped it with a big bobble head clown like cheech and chong did

Now you're just being silly.
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I go with a bobble head for the childrenz and Nat installs nostrils and I am the one being Silly??



my feelz were hurt

Nat you got a generic picture of you idea?

Is it like a boat transom vent?
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:47 PM   #20
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well that ductwork looks like it is over the engine bay, that's where I'm putting a closet area on my re Thomas. Mine doesn't have the ductwork yours does, but I wouldn't put the corner of my bed that high anyway
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