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Old 09-10-2015, 07:35 PM   #41
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:08 PM   #42
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MUCH better built!



Imagine what your typical Class A would look like after this encounter.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:05 AM   #43
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Wow $20k on conversion??? I think my conversion is $3k-$3k
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My bus was $4k. My bus has actual rooms with real walls. Nothing cobbled together there.
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Yup. I looked when the figure of $250k was mentioned about motorhome s. Turns out the majority are under $70K.

Mine is probably coming in at $6-$7k.
So what number is it really? Can't even remember what you posted the day before?

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I can see the way this forum has deteriorated, if I say the sky is blue I'll get slagged off and told its pink.
No, you just need to think before posting.

You have lost all credibility here. No one is going to trust anything you post due to your own actions.

My advice is delete your user name and start over with a completely new attitude and understanding.

You aren't the first member to do so, and you won't be the last. Take the advice, it's intended to help you.

This forum is not deteriorating. It's getting better and better as time passes.

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Old 09-11-2015, 03:15 AM   #44
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MUCH better built!



Imagine what your typical Class A would look like after this encounter.
Get out of the way bus I got important train stuff to do!
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Old 09-11-2015, 11:47 AM   #45
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Hmmm...maybe we should all be converting locomotives?
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Old 09-11-2015, 12:53 PM   #46
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Hmmm...maybe we should all be converting locomotives?
This is off topic but funny you should mention that. I keep thinking there has to be some way to eliminate the whole driveline and mount an industrial grade electrical motor to the drive axle input. Then a more fuel efficient microturbine turns a genset to power the motor and supplementary battery pack. It'll basically be a 30' Prius! Microturbines run most efficiently at constant high speed so regardless of how fast the vehicle is traveling the powerplant runs at peak efficiency and any surplus power is stored for high-demand loads like acceleration.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:21 PM   #47
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This is off topic but funny you should mention that. I keep thinking there has to be some way to eliminate the whole driveline and mount an industrial grade electrical motor to the drive axle input. Then a more fuel efficient microturbine turns a genset to power the motor and supplementary battery pack. It'll basically be a 30' Prius! Microturbines run most efficiently at constant high speed so regardless of how fast the vehicle is traveling the powerplant runs at peak efficiency and any surplus power is stored for high-demand loads like acceleration.
Hell ya.

I'm all for trying new things.

Electric car forum would be the place to start researching parts for that.

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Old 09-11-2015, 07:43 PM   #48
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Just forget the whole turbine idea, the only reason to use a turbine is if you need an insane amount of HP and have a size or weight limitation, or you are very rich and just like the sound turbines are not fuel efficient compared to piston engines and locomotives are diesel electric because they have never really come up with a mechanical drivetrain that can handle the power and torque needed to start a 5000 ton train moving and last anytime at all (other than direct drive steam). The railroads experimented with turbines, it used about 5 times as much fuel as the current diesel electric locomotives do and the noise level was incredible.
Our city has hybrid busses, they cost $100,000 more than a standard bus and are expected to save about $10,000 in fuel over their expected life, not a good trade off in my book
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:44 PM   #49
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Just forget the whole turbine idea, the only reason to use a turbine is if you need an insane amount of HP and have a size or weight limitation, or you are very rich and just like the sound turbines are not fuel efficient compared to piston engines and locomotives are diesel electric because they have never really come up with a mechanical drivetrain that can handle the power and torque needed to start a 5000 ton train moving and last anytime at all (other than direct drive steam). The railroads experimented with turbines, it used about 5 times as much fuel as the current diesel electric locomotives do and the noise level was incredible.

Our city has hybrid busses, they cost $100,000 more than a standard bus and are expected to save about $10,000 in fuel over their expected life, not a good trade off in my book
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:10 PM   #50
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I understand what you're saying and maybe the turbine powerplant isn't the right way to go, especially considering as you mentioned that locomotives are diesel-electric and not turbine-electric. If it was superior they would have gone that way long ago. I still like the diesel-electric idea though if for no other reason than as an excuse to build a better mousetrap so to speak.

Sorry to have hijacked this thread, I promise if there's any more to say I'll start a new topic.
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