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Old 05-18-2018, 02:34 AM   #1
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How much does your converted bus weigh?

Hey!


I'm doing some homework and trying to figure out if an EV conversion for a bus is possible/sensible, I have a thread about that in the electrical section... not too important to this thread, but I figured I'd explain why I want to know.


So, how much does your converted bus weigh?


What I'm going to try to do is compile all the info shared with me here into a Google Doc and share it with everyone including things like averages, minimum, maximus... and depending on how much and how granular the data I have to work with is, maybe I can give some other useful numbers.


Please, be as detailed as you can be! If you have weight before and after conversion, that's great. If you have model numbers, how many seats/windows the bus has/had... how much the wheelchair lift weighed, if it had one... all of that would be awesome info to have!


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Old 05-18-2018, 07:08 AM   #2
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1991 Bluebird AARE GVWR 36,200

Seated with full fuel tanks (100 gl)
Front axle 8,720
Rear axle 15,360
Gross wt 24,080

Converted mostly done except for cabinet doors
Full fuel (100 gl) and fresh water (100 gl) driver in seat (180 lbs)

Front axle 10,640
left 5580 right 5060

Rear axle 17,440
left 9140 right 8300
Gross wt 28,080
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:31 AM   #3
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Thomas Saf-T-Liner 1999.

40', Cummins 8.3 and MD3060

Completely stripped of seats, walls, and ceiling:

Steer Axle: 6360 lb
Drive Axle: 12400 lb

Total: 18760 lb
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:46 AM   #4
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:02 AM   #5
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:02 PM   #6
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Thomas Saf-T-Liner 1999.

40', Cummins 8.3 and MD3060

Completely stripped of seats, walls, and ceiling:

Steer Axle: 6360 lb
Drive Axle: 12400 lb

Total: 18760 lb
My stripped 40' International is almost exactly this front and rear. I'll weigh again once it's done. The GVWR is over 26K - maybe 31? Can't remember.
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Old 05-20-2018, 02:39 AM   #7
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Alright! This is a good start. I guess it's no surprise, but buses are quite heavy! Haha


Here's what I came up with so far off of these replies. Let me know if I can make this easier to read or more useful!



Do any of you happen to know what material your buses' frames are made out of? What about the wheels?


Another shot in the dark, but what about the weight of the engine/transmission, as those probably wouldn't be a part of an EV conversion. The transmission might stay.
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:31 AM   #8
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Frame is steel, what else could it be? Wheels are steel. 40 feet long.

Cat 3116 engine dry weight approx 1085
Allison 643 trans dry weight approx 510

AARE is rear engine
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:43 AM   #9
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I know a DT466 weighs around 1500lbs without the transmission.
With ALL the interior stripped out, the rolling shell weighed 17,900 lbs and it was a 40 footer FE.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:27 AM   #10
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