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Old 01-19-2016, 04:01 PM   #1
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How to tell what engine/transmission

Hi all,

I found a bus I am interested in and it is only 2000 miles away. The owner can only tell me that it has an International engine and Allison auto transmission. Is there way he can tell what engine/trans it has...like a plate or something. If he can do that, he can email me pics of them so I can see what it is.

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Old 01-19-2016, 04:58 PM   #2
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Should be a plate on both engine and transmission with all the info you need.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:13 PM   #3
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In addition to the plates on the engine and transmission, there probably also are plates in the cabin with at least serial numbers. Somebody here could probably recognize the format of Cummins, International, CAT, Allison etc numbers; knowing the make and the number you can probably get more info online or over the phone from dealers.

In Blue Birds there are usually two plates on the front bulkhead near the passenger door with that info, and another plate above the driver with such info as VIN and GVW. I don't know whether/where other makes may have similar plates.
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:10 PM   #4
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Thank you for the help. Have requested pics of the plates.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:43 PM   #5
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Its 99% likely that its the DT466. I'd bet money on it, if I had any.
It will have the 643 tranny.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:17 AM   #6
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Its 99% likely that its the DT466. I'd bet money on it, if I had any.
It will have the 643 tranny.
How can you guess this by what info the OP has given you which is nothing. You don't even know the year. 99% of the buses don't have DT466 engines and a 643. My bus from Tennessee has a DT466 and the ever so wonderful AT545 transmission. There are many buses with the 444E.

To the OP, if someone that is 2000 miles away can't take the time to find out info that you want, I would pass on the bus. He doesn't have the only bus for sale.
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Because he PM'ed me about the bus with the listing. Its a 92 Ward Senator. High headroom, underside storage bins, retarder, its RAAAADDDDDD. And compared to what buses are selling for these days its a STEAL. If the OP doesn't want it I'll definitely try to scrape up the money for it.
Real bargains are found when the buyer knows what they're looking for and the seller doesn't know what they have.

The op is wise not to publicly share that listing as I think one of the MANY lurkers would snap it up in a heartbeat.
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Because he PM'ed me about the bus with the listing. Its a 92 Ward Senator. High headroom, underside storage bins, retarder, its RAAAADDDDDD. And compared to what buses are selling for these days its a STEAL. If the OP doesn't want it I'll definitely try to scrape up the money for it.
Real bargains are found when the buyer knows what they're looking for and the seller doesn't know what they have.

The op is wise not to publicly share that listing as I think one of the MANY lurkers would snap it up in a heartbeat.
EastCoastCB is correct. It's a crazy story, but one I even the cynic in me believes. Should have my answer within a day or two. Hoping all is right and I will be it's new owner after that!

Thanks for all the help!
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Old 01-21-2016, 05:06 PM   #9
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I purchased my bus in Oklahoma. Not quite so far as 2000 miles from New England. If you're not looking for a short bus (harder to come by) then add OK to your craigslist search. Out of the rust belt! There's a lot of busses for sale in that state.

Best of luck!

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