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02-03-2017, 10:20 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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How would you like this bus?
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02-03-2017, 11:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karrlot
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That's the skoolie version of a mcmansion.
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02-04-2017, 01:27 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Those buses have some special issues attached to them due to their length. In some jurisdictions you will need an over length permit once you are off a Federal highway.
They also have some really funky drive systems. Since I do not see any radiator grilles in the tractor section but do see some in the trailer section that might be a dual drive bus.
Dual drive buses used poles to attach to overhead wires to run as trackless trolleys in downtown urban settings. Once out of downtown on the road to the suburbs the poles would be retracted and the bus would then run under diesel power.
The problem for a convertor is the diesel drivetrain is in the trailer. When under diesel power the trailer actually pushes the tractor section.
Needless to say, having a trailer push the tractor can have some very interesting driving characteristics. Those characteristics become glaringly apparent when the roads get slick. Even when fully chained up on the trailer drive axle those buses are next to useless on ice and snow.
You also have the additional problem of what sort of power package might be hiding back there. One would hope it was something common and easy on which to work and find parts. Something like a Cummins L10 or M11 with an Allison transmission. But some had MAN diesel engines with ZF transmissions. You don't exactly go down to NAPA and find parts for a MAN or ZF.
The one real advantage is you do have 60' of coach to convert. That is a LOT of real estate on which to build.
I have never driven one but I understand they can be a real pistol to back up.
If the price was below scrap price I might take a flyer on it. But to my way of thinking it would be a major PITA every inch of the way.
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02-04-2017, 09:14 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Hopefully one day we'll get a member with an articulated bus, and we can hear all about it's conversion.
This would be so cool!
Living area, kitchen area, and sleeping area!
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I once complained I had no shoes....
Until I met a man with no feet
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02-04-2017, 09:32 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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Goodness and i thought this 35ft GMC was tricky to find a place to park!
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02-06-2017, 09:05 PM
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#6
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 58
Chassis: Crown Supercoach
Engine: Detroit Diesel 6-71 Mid-ship
Rated Cap: 78
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I dare you.
No, I double dare you.
You'll be a legend.
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02-06-2017, 09:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yeggs
I dare you.
No, I double dare you.
You'll be a legend.
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I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
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02-06-2017, 09:16 PM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
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I wouldn't touch it with a 39 1/2 ft pole.
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02-06-2017, 09:24 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karrlot
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02-06-2017, 09:25 PM
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#10
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Danglebury, Tejas
Posts: 310
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466E
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU!!!
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Whoa!!! The gauntlet has been thrown!
The last time I saw a triple-dog-dare my cousin was committed to pee'ing on an electric fence. (He hasnt been the same since, according to his wife...)
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"You can finally say you have enough horsepower when you leave two black streaks from corner to corner"
(Mark Donohue, famed TransAm driver)
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02-06-2017, 09:26 PM
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#11
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyCoyote
Whoa!!! The gauntlet has been thrown!
The last time I saw a triple-dog-dare my cousin was committed to pee'ing on an electric fence. (He hasnt been the same since, according to his wife...)
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Don't pee on an electric fence or a third rail...
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02-06-2017, 09:54 PM
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#12
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Danglebury, Tejas
Posts: 310
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466E
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
Don't pee on an electric fence or a third rail...
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Pfffft! Wussie!
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"You can finally say you have enough horsepower when you leave two black streaks from corner to corner"
(Mark Donohue, famed TransAm driver)
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02-06-2017, 10:09 PM
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#13
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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After grabbing the electric fence with my hand, I do not think I would pee on one for less than 10 million dollars
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02-06-2017, 10:10 PM
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#14
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
After grabbing the electric fence with my hand, I do not think I would pee on one for less than 10 million dollars
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I might do it for 10... Might. But no the third rail. Can't spend it if you ain't breathing.
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02-07-2017, 08:35 AM
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#15
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyCoyote
Whoa!!! The gauntlet has been thrown!
The last time I saw a triple-dog-dare my cousin was committed to pee'ing on an electric fence. (He hasnt been the same since, according to his wife...)
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I didn't have to do that to get the kid down the street that didn't mind telling me how much smarter than me he was.Peed on the fence andHe went home real quick!
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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02-07-2017, 12:05 PM
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#16
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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I drove one of those EXACT buses in Houston when I worked for Houston Metro. They SUKED BIG TIME!!!!!!! Absolutely NO acceleration, turning was, at best, tepid. The ride was like riding a 1970's skateboard, NO smooth air ride AT ALL. The drivetrain is located in the very back and is way too underpowered to do anything beyond getting through an intersection in under 2 minutes. I'M NOT JOKING!!!!! It's a piece of junk. Best use is to park it and leave it as a parked conversion. Only drawback is there is NO undercarriage stowage at all. The floor inside the bus is the underside of the bus. RUN AWAY FROM THESE PIECES OF JUNK!!!!! Just my two cents (especially after having driven them)......
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02-08-2017, 06:58 PM
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#17
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 7
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...and there is this bus ?
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02-08-2017, 07:03 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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ive ridden these busses in cities.. and I concur the RIDE SUCKED!!!.. and so did the Heat!!! I damn about frozemyself to death sitting near the front... it also seemed like the driver was always on the steering wheel.. unless he didnt know how to drive it.. but seemed he wasalways back N forth and never just relaxing down the street..
the ones I rode werent electric.. it was all diesel all the time..
-Christopher
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02-08-2017, 08:15 PM
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#19
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Tavares, Florida
Posts: 157
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: Caterpillar 3116
Rated Cap: 78?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milkmania
Hopefully one day we'll get a member with an articulated bus, and we can hear all about it's conversion.
This would be so cool!
Living area, kitchen area, and sleeping area!
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Wow, when it rounds the corner you're already around the block!
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02-08-2017, 08:37 PM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Marcano
Wow, when it rounds the corner you're already around the block!
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Crank the wheel all the way and pretend you're a dog chasing its tail!
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