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Old 03-08-2007, 12:26 AM   #11
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I'm heading for OK with Millicent, right now!

Chief, I have some thoughts that may be helpful. It's about how colors appear
from a distance. Years ago, I arranged to have two drag chutes made to order for
a quarter-mile dragster. The chutes were to look like the Norwegian flag. The
average spectators would see them from a quarter mile away. I know the correct
proportions of the colors in the Norwegian flag (12, 6, 1, 2). I brought those
numbers and talked to the manufacturer. He told me to make a partial mock-up
of the flag and look at it from a quarter mile away. We were amazed. It didn't look
right at all. Different colors "fade" differently in the distance. To look correct at a
distance, we had to change the proportions of the colors.

Then there’s the phenomenon we call “Built in too small a garage”. This is when
a guy builds a vehicle without considering how it will look on the road. It looks
great up close, shiny and clever, but on the road something indefinable is wrong.
This could easily happen with a vehicle as large as a bus!

Finally, my “red” bus. The bus that several people called red, was actually white
with red rub rails. What they noticed, was the red. All that white... was just
background.

Now plan your paint job, and have fun!
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:56 PM   #12
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I'm gonna paint mine the color of road grime so I can stealth park in the big cities!
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:28 PM   #13
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All right, we're drifting here , but...

There's an other trick for parking: That is to make the vehicle look very official or
important. With a school bus, it would have to be a fairly new and nice looking bus,
but you could then decorate it like some sort of urgent service. NOT blinking lights
Emergency Vehicle, which would be illegal, but something like environmental
cleanup or 24-Hours-Help or whatnot. Or surveying. Or utility service. A fake
important sounding company logo might be good. And wheel chocks!

There is a real company called SafetyClean. Their trucks are a wild "emergency
lime green" kinda color, and say SafetyClean and other important sounding stuff all
over. What meter maid would ticket that, if it looks like it is "on a mission"?!

Back to work.
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Old 04-09-2007, 04:49 PM   #14
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WOO HOO! A guy that I race dirtbikes with is an exec or something like that for DuPont. He told me to let him know how I wanted to paint my bus. I gave him the info and he's bringing me about 20 gallons of aircraft grade paint that's good up to 700 mph! I'll be sure to keep the bus below 700 mph so as not to damage the paint. I'm going to do a black bus with flames. I'm going to extend my flames all the way down the roof so the roof isn't black for the summer time.

Also, I called the shop at Ft. Sill and they measured their booth for me. It won't fit my bus in there. However, a guy I know at work; his dad owns a business in Lawton, OK (Same town where Ft. Sill is) and he paints 18 wheelers for a living! Apparently, he checked with his dad on my behalf after hearing my painting woes and they are going to let me bring my bus down on a weekend and paint it for free! I get to use their paint guns too. WOO HOO! They don't work on the weekends so the booth will be open. I can't believe that I might actually get my bus totally painted for free! I have to work this weekend, but maybe next weekend I might be able to get her painted up!

So here's what I'm thinking. After sanding and prepping the bus, I'll lay down a nice coat of yellow where the flames will be. I will then draw the flames on with a pencil or chalk of some sort. Then I'll put the orange and red highlights on the tips of the flames. I'm also thinking of painting the middle of the flames a bright white. After that, I'll mask off the flames and paint all of the black on. After the black is dried, I'll paint a dark purple shadow around the flames with my airbrush. After it's all dried, I'll pull the masking off and clearcoat the whole bus. I think that will work. I've painted RC car bodies before. I'm thinking it's kind of like that only in reverse and 2,000 times bigger. Hmmmmmm. Does that sound like a good plan? At any rate, I'm off to start some sanding right now! WOO HOO! I'm amazed at how many people want to help or participate in the bus conversion or contribute somehow! This bus stuff is a blast!
Dude, u gotta stop saying "WOO HOO"
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Old 04-09-2007, 06:27 PM   #15
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If only the Chief had asked for "...painting quickly".

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If only the Chief had asked for "...painting quickly".


That would be the new XHVULP (Extra High Volume, Ultra Low Pressure) sprayer.
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:25 PM   #17
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I'm figuring you'll have a lot better equipment with the spray room, but for anyone else coming to this thread for advice, I have had great luck with my little $59.99 Wagner HVLP gun from Home Depot and Rustoleum thinned with Mineral Oil.

Surface prep was to sand out the few rust spots (maybe 12" sq. total) and to wash with a mix of TSP and bleach.
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Sorry I gave some bad info in the last blurb. I just painted this weekend and my sprayer only wants to see 45 PSI max. I remember having a $10 cheapie that was around 85 PSI but that was years ago.

For your personal edification I painted a 4-door Chrysler Concorde this weekend, and it took 2, 20-ounce mixings to cover it. That was also laying a new metallic blue over a sky-blue base coat. The areas where I was covering body-filler/primer took a few more passes to get a good solid color matching the rest of the car. If the whole thing would have been primer colored it would have easily taken 3, 20-ounce mixings.

I also found out the hard way to never use the nice, expensive, blue painters tape on a car. It peels off great when used on drywall, but when used on car glass and rubber trim, not so great, 2 hours with a razor blade and I think I got most of it off.

Razor blade works great for getting rid of over-spray on glass.
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