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02-09-2016, 11:39 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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I won a transmission!
I'm in a great mood right now! I just snagged my Allison MD3060 transmission for $510. The seller said it's in near perfect condition with low miles, but I'm not sure how much I believe it. I guess I'm just a gambling man.
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02-09-2016, 11:47 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 217
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner HDX
Engine: CAT 3126B250
Rated Cap: 84
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That's pretty awesome! Wonder what shipping will cost.
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02-09-2016, 11:49 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RHOMBUS
That's pretty awesome! Wonder what shipping will cost.
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I checked and if it's from a business to business address then it's less than $300 or so. From business to residential, around $350-$400. Residential to residential? Forget about it. I think I'm going to be able to get a business to business.. if not, I'll have to go with business to residential.. which isn't too bad.
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02-09-2016, 12:03 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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I hope you are getting the puter and shifter pad with it or look at spending a few more $$$.
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02-09-2016, 12:04 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal
I hope you are getting the puter and shifter pad with it or look at spending a few more $$$.
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I hope so too... the description says "Allison MD 3060 complete with computer wiring harness, converter and adapter to cummins 6bt"
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02-09-2016, 12:30 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobszall
I hope so too... the description says "Allison MD 3060 complete with computer wiring harness, converter and adapter to cummins 6bt"
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Where's the part about the computer and shifter pad?
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02-09-2016, 12:32 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal
Where's the part about the computer and shifter pad?
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It says complete... so I'm just hoping it is. I couldn't pass it up for 500 dollars.
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02-09-2016, 12:42 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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I hope it comes with everything. Not trying to be difficult. I just don't want you to get burned. Also, your profile says Cummins 8.3. That's a 6ct not a 6bt. A 6bt is a 5.9.
What transmission do you have now?
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02-09-2016, 12:43 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Ya, let's hope. The harness and shifter can easily cost several times that price. Keep us up on how it goes. Good luck bud.
And, BTW...Allison does not make or sell any of the shifters that go with their trannies. They are all speced by whatever the chassis builder call for. And it may be the same for the harness.
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02-09-2016, 12:44 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal
I hope it comes with everything. Not trying to be difficult. I just don't want you to get burned. Also, your profile says Cummins 8.3. That's a 6ct not a 6bt. A 6bt is a 5.9.
What transmission do you have now?
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I don't have one. It says adapter.. and I was told by some that this engine/transmission combo is pretty common.. oh man I hope this isn't the wrong one..
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02-09-2016, 12:57 PM
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#11
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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I'm not following you. You have a bus with no transmission?
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02-09-2016, 12:59 PM
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#12
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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I bought it for $425, no batteries, no transmission, minor engine work needed, no dashboard. The dashboard arrived yesterday, I bought a battery recently and I am praying the transmission I bought will work just fine haha. It's almost running.
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02-09-2016, 01:09 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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Okay, so I talked to him and it comes with the computer and harness.. but the shifter was burnt in the fire. I'm assuming I need that for it to run..
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02-09-2016, 01:12 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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02-09-2016, 01:14 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobszall
I bought it for $425, no batteries, no transmission, minor engine work needed, no dashboard. The dashboard arrived yesterday, I bought a battery recently and I am praying the transmission I bought will work just fine haha. It's almost running.
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If you bought a bus with an 8.3 and no trans for 425, I wouldn't hold your breath that the engine runs unless you have started it already. That engine is worth $3k plus all day long.
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02-09-2016, 01:15 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal
If you bought a bus with an 8.3 and no trans for 425, I wouldn't hold your breath that the engine runs unless you have started it already. That engine is worth $3k plus all day long.
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Oh man.
I'm pretty sure I have the shifter.
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02-09-2016, 01:51 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
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To be honest, I'm a bit nervous now. The transmission should be fine, I think. I bought the bus from the school district who looks like they used the transmission and some other things for parts for other, better conditioned buses. The rear engine door was really really stuck.. but we managed to get it open. I'm hoping that, because it was stuck, the engine wasn't touched much. It doesn't look too bad and I'm just hoping it'll turn over. I have that shifter piece in the bus already, so I don't think I need a new one.
I guess this is the part where I start hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
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02-09-2016, 02:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 722
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 RE
Engine: 8.3l Cummins
Rated Cap: 78
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Engines don't need a transmission attached to them to do a test run. At most, you'll need a trans because you're missing the flywheel or bellhousing is designed to take a torque converter with the starter ring gear around the outside.
Can you turn the motor over slowly with a bar?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobszall
To be honest, I'm a bit nervous now. The transmission should be fine, I think. I bought the bus from the school district who looks like they used the transmission and some other things for parts for other, better conditioned buses. The rear engine door was really really stuck.. but we managed to get it open. I'm hoping that, because it was stuck, the engine wasn't touched much. It doesn't look too bad and I'm just hoping it'll turn over. I have that shifter piece in the bus already, so I don't think I need a new one.
I guess this is the part where I start hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
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02-09-2016, 02:52 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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I've been told to never turn a diesel over manually even slowly (as with a bar) since they can pop off and run for a few revs on whatever is in the lines and/or cylinders. Remember...they don't need any "spark"...just air & fuel that gets compressed.
I have hand propped a few airplanes and would not want to see a bar spinning like a propeller. I may have been told wrong, but then...I have never tested the theory.
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02-09-2016, 02:59 PM
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#20
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
I've been told to never turn a diesel over manually even slowly (as with a bar) since they can pop off and run for a few revs on whatever is in the lines and/or cylinders. Remember...they don't need any "spark"...just air & fuel that gets compressed.
I have hand propped a few airplanes and would not want to see a bar spinning like a propeller. I may have been told wrong, but then...I have never tested the theory.
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Man, you take the fun out of everything.
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