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Old 08-31-2017, 12:12 AM   #1
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In A Bit Of A Situation W/ Bus Purchase

I won an auction and was super excited about starting our conversion. I called the lead mechanic at the school district as well as the cummins mechanic the district takes its outsourced work to, they both confirmed this was a solid bus and would be a great buy.

However, after asking for the service records for my own personal use, I came across a very troubling document. (see attachment) It appears as though this rig has some major issues that I was not told about. I am not saying it was their job to do so, it just would have been nice to know before dropping $3k on a rig!

The rep that sent me the documents mentioned that the techs will typically mark up extra issues to get new busses in but I am not sure how to take that. I plan on removing the AC so the AC costs do not concern me. However, everything else seems to be a fairly big deal. Has anyone else experienced anything like this when getting your bus?

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Old 08-31-2017, 12:19 AM   #2
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I won an auction and was super excited about starting our conversion. I called the lead mechanic at the school district as well as the cummins mechanic the district takes its outsourced work to, they both confirmed this was a solid bus and would be a great buy.

However, after asking for the service records for my own personal use, I came across a very troubling document. (see attachment) It appears as though this rig has some major issues that I was not told about. I am not saying it was their job to do so, it just would have been nice to know before dropping $3k on a rig!

The rep that sent me the documents mentioned that the techs will typically mark up extra issues to get new busses in but I am not sure how to take that. I plan on removing the AC so the AC costs do not concern me. However, everything else seems to be a fairly big deal. Has anyone else experienced anything like this when getting your bus?

Chris
First off, you are buying used, so there is the inherent danger. Secondly, parts could be gotten cheaper if you are dilligent enough to source what you need on the numerous online marketplaces.
Not sure that you have a recourse at this point other than to pick the bus up and get a second opinion on required maintenance. Some district auction off their busses through a diassociated third party and you wouldn't get much of anything, so you are lucky.

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Old 08-31-2017, 12:40 AM   #3
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That document might represent a financial justification for surplussing the bus. Most of it doesn't seem too bad, and easy fixes. Doesn't say what's up with the diff, and electrical/electronic transmission might be easy & cheap, or not. 3k is but a down payment on a big rig.
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:15 AM   #4
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That document might represent a financial justification for surplussing the bus. Most of it doesn't seem too bad, and easy fixes. Doesn't say what's up with the diff, and electrical/electronic transmission might be easy & cheap, or not. 3k is but a down payment on a big rig.
Standard practice- list of problems to justify to Board why you are buying a new bus.

I didn't see your bus, but I bet you could recoup your $3K on Craigslist if you want out.

I wouldn't worry about that report and just get used to money leaving your wallet.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:23 AM   #5
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Sounds like the same to me, justification for the budget to get newer equipment. I'm sure we could all dump 10g's into our buses first thing and they wouldn't look or perform any better than they do at present.
Just make sure your basic platform is sound mechanically and electrically and you won't be sorry for making that purchase.

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Old 08-31-2017, 02:25 PM   #6
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Standard practice- list of problems to justify to Board why you are buying a new bus.

I didn't see your bus, but I bet you could recoup your $3K on Craigslist if you want out.

I wouldn't worry about that report and just get used to money leaving your wallet.
I agree.
Buses are all cheap to buy, unless you go to a dealer.
ALL of them are going to cost thousands to keep up over the years, or even right away. IDK who ever started that rumor that buses were in any way cheap, other than to purchase.
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