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Old 02-03-2015, 10:01 AM   #31
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Wool is not for me.

No bat or woven anything for me. Spray foam or nothing.

I just looked at the title to this thread. How are you attaching the wool to the outside of the bus?

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Old 02-03-2015, 10:52 AM   #32
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It does not matter what any of us post. What matters is that you look at the options we give. Look at the pro's and the con's based on what we post. Then go do your own research. We all have our own reasons for choosing what we chose. Cost and availability are also factored in. Some of us live in our buses while we convert. That also helps to determine what is used as well as the methods used. I can not stress this enough... DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! Find what will suit your needs, skills and pocket.
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Old 02-16-2015, 12:42 PM   #33
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Here you go folks.

http://news.distractify.com/people/amazing/sports-car/

I saw someone mention that they didn't want to drive a baked potato around... so what would you like to drive around? Based on what this guy pulled off, apparently your imagination, budget and foam sculpting skills are the only limit.

Now what this guy did is pretty cool, not sure anyone here is gonna now run off and sculpt their whole bus next week, but still this really seems to have some potential as far as sculpting some features on a smaller scale. Maybe redoing your dash? The bus dashboards I've seen so far have been all been pretty utilitarian, maybe this is a way to pretty them up a little.

And imagine if you did have the time and funds to foam your whole bus and the talent to really sculpt it into anything. I could see someone doing an entire bus in a bio-mechanical look, a la H.R. Giger, or just recreating the classic curves or fat fenders or even the crazy fins of earlier decades. Natural scenes or cityscapes carved in bas relief into the side of your bus?

One thing though, I think I read somewhere about foam releasing fumes? Or is that only certain kinds?
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:14 PM   #34
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Spray foam will release fumes if applied to thickly.
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:03 PM   #35
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Spray foam will release fumes if applied to thickly.
Please be more specific, there are different types, of foam, each with there own characteristics.

At work we only use the closed cell 2 pound. Regardless of thickness sprayed, out gassing is done in 30 days or less as per manufacture literature. 90% of the outgassing is done in the first 24 hours.

At proper temp, the foam is done expanding in 3 seconds or less.

A simple coat of latex paint is enough to seal open cell.

The amount of out gassing after the fist 24 hours is less toxic than the formaldehyde glue used in the OSB most skoolies use in their buses.

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Old 02-16-2015, 06:22 PM   #36
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So basically there are foams with which this could be safely done, and applied as thick as you wanted, even if you weren't going to do anything especially artistic.. I would at least shave it down so it didn't look like a potato but I've also got some fairly decent sculpting skills and I'd be awfully tempted to have some fun too. For me it's an intriguing idea because we're probably going to end up with a short bus due to driveway, storage and workspace constraints.. and in a small bus keeping all the interior space possible is very attractive. (now I've just got to find a bus... liking this one http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/4884314855.html but wish it was a different motor
and not so far away.... )
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This place sprays shipping containers that it makes into homes. It is a ceramic mix that they compared to what was used on space shuttles. They are located in St. Pete, FL.

"...sprayed with heavy-duty insulating SuperTherm ceramic coating to prevent heat buildup and transfer.."

See it here

I am curious how much that adds to the weight of it. It doesn't matter to the shipping container but I don't know about a bus that is driven around.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:09 AM   #38
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Hmm not sure I am sold on ceramic coatings and insulating paint..

http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...is-own-product

Anyone have first hand experience? I've seen some members talking about plans to use various insulating paints and roof coatings, but don't recall seeing the results.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:59 AM   #39
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Hmm not sure I am sold on ceramic coatings and insulating paint..

http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...is-own-product

Anyone have first hand experience? I've seen some members talking about plans to use various insulating paints and roof coatings, but don't recall seeing the results.
Anyone that knows how insulation works (trapping small air pockets) will never believe that a paint can do the job.

Same go's for all this reflective foil coatings on insulation. Unless the finished wall covering was the reflective coating, you will never see any improvement.

The people that leave air gaps thinking they are going to get better results from their foil cover insulation are just defeating the whole insulation process.

When I first hung the new galvanized sheets on my bus, they were a near mirror finish. Although they did reflect a ton of the suns heat away, it was not enough. I tried a small section in white and found it was only half as hot as the mirror finish metal. After painting them black, the sheets got over twice as hot as the mirror finish did.

If this ceramic impregnated paint was not white, it would never sell. The only results people are seeing is due to the white color of the paint.

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Well read and make your own conclusions. http://www.insulation.org/articles/a...fm?id=IO060705

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