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Old 03-12-2019, 09:05 PM   #11
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The cheaper version. Nice. I wonder if i could patch it to a different display. It would be enough to cold start the engine. Thanks. I'll check it out
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:43 AM   #12
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you need the scanGauge D, I thought the scangauge 2 was only for OBD2.. and these busses use the J1708 6 or 9 pin deutsch connector which the scangauge D is msde for.. you can look under the dash for a grey or green connector and count the pins on it to get the correct scangauge..


my Dash set up is more elabotrate.. it uses a mixture of a commercial device (VMS-PC by silverleaf), a homebrew box and a windows tablet.. the scangauges are much more economical and will get you the data.



the Bluefire is a newer device that will beam data to your smartphone or tablet.. it came out since I built mine and looks really promising.. its also cheaper than what I have if you have a tablet or phone to use with it.



this is the 9 pin version of it (newer version that supports iOS as well as windows / android.



https://www.amazon.com/BlueFire-Blue...FH91SAYKT7G9AQ


this is the 6 pin version that works with everything..

https://www.amazon.com/BlueFire-Andr...gateway&sr=8-3


there are slightly cheaper older versions of these devices that wont work with apple iOS if you are using android that might be an option.. but as with all electronics I usually opt for the latest..


this is the scangauge D that works with our busses..

https://www.scangauge.com/products/scangauge-d/


-Christopher


P.S. and if yopu want to go the same route as I did, I can give you pointers, but the above solutions should get you what you need at a fraction of the cost i have in mine..
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:18 AM   #13
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you need the scanGauge D, I thought the scangauge 2 was only for OBD2.. and these busses use the J1708 6 or 9 pin deutsch connector which the scangauge D is msde for.. you can look under the dash for a grey or green connector and count the pins on it to get the correct scangauge..


my Dash set up is more elabotrate.. it uses a mixture of a commercial device (VMS-PC by silverleaf), a homebrew box and a windows tablet.. the scangauges are much more economical and will get you the data.



the Bluefire is a newer device that will beam data to your smartphone or tablet.. it came out since I built mine and looks really promising.. its also cheaper than what I have if you have a tablet or phone to use with it.



this is the 9 pin version of it (newer version that supports iOS as well as windows / android.



https://www.amazon.com/BlueFire-Blue...FH91SAYKT7G9AQ


this is the 6 pin version that works with everything..

https://www.amazon.com/BlueFire-Andr...gateway&sr=8-3


there are slightly cheaper older versions of these devices that wont work with apple iOS if you are using android that might be an option.. but as with all electronics I usually opt for the latest..


this is the scangauge D that works with our busses..

https://www.scangauge.com/products/scangauge-d/


-Christopher


P.S. and if yopu want to go the same route as I did, I can give you pointers, but the above solutions should get you what you need at a fraction of the cost i have in mine..
Looks like a sweet middle ground setup for sure
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:53 AM   #14
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Very nice. Thanks. I'm Gonna research those today and settle on one. Providing that i did everything correctly and the darn thing runs. Hehe
Thanks again for the help and advice. I'm keep y'all posted
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:28 AM   #15
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Positive energy for making this run good!! if your engine has a heater circulator booster pump you can use this to help prime out your cooling system before starting the engine.. it circulkates coolant through the engine and heater cores.. of course the Tstat will be closed so it wont circulate through the radiator.. but you can run this with the bottle cap off and keep adding coolant and hopefully bleeding air at the heater bleeder valves.. the idea being that you get the block filled without air pockets that could heat up very quickly when started..

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:05 AM   #16
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Very nice. Thanks. I can always count on you for those reminders and tips. It's all gone very well. So far so good.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:32 PM   #17
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I found some surplus Surface (Windows 10) Tablets for my 2006 (with a 2004 DT466E)


For the adapter do I need this https://bluefire-llc.com/store/6-pin-j1708-adapters or https://bluefire-llc.com/store/9-pin-j1939j1708-adapters?


Any other cable goodies needed?
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:52 PM   #18
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im looking for surplus Surface 3's. if anyone can find any..



look at your connector and be sure to order the bluefire that fits the connector type you have.. by 06. many were switching to the 9 pin..



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Old 03-20-2019, 03:43 PM   #19
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The back of it is a circuit board- they crack and then stop working. I know a mechanic that found the break and soldiered a jumper wire over the break. Wrecking yards are full of those clusters.
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:33 PM   #20
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Christopher, thanks for posting the links to the BlueFire item on amazon. I think I like this route as the scangauge D just appears to be too small for my liking. I have an Edge CTS monitor in my truck and love it. switch power settings on the fly (via EFIlive) and can monitor a variety of things via a touch screen (4.3").
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