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Old 01-24-2018, 08:11 PM   #1
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Is this my unicorn?

I've spent the better part of the last year living on this site and learning everything I can. With that said I think I may have found the unicorn I've been looking for and wanted to get some other opinions.

What I'm looking for is a bus that's got a strong all mechanical drive train, is as close to 35' long as possible, and has decent interior ceiling height. I'm finding the all mechanical buses are getting more and more scarce.

What I've found is a 36' 1982 International with 188k (not sure of the hours but it was previously owned by a volunteer fire dept so I'm guessing not a lot of idling hours), with a DT466 + MT643 drive train. Ceiling height is 72.5" which is a bummer, but I am taking a welding class at my local community college so I'm thinking I could pull off a roof raise if need be. Asking price is $5k, I can probably talk it down a bit.

I'd love some other opinions on this beast.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:18 PM   #2
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That's very much like what i'm looking for, but i'm expecting to pay much less for newer bus. That does look to be in good condition and has a desired drive train. Hope you can talk em down some.
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That looks ok. I don't think that's your unicorn though. I think you're settling because it's been so long. It's probably a good bus. It's got most of the right parts.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:35 PM   #4
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I've spent the better part of the last year living on this site and learning everything I can. With that said I think I may have found the unicorn I've been looking for and wanted to get some other opinions.

What I'm looking for is a bus that's got a strong all mechanical drive train, is as close to 35' long as possible, and has decent interior ceiling height. I'm finding the all mechanical buses are getting more and more scarce.

What I've found is a 36' 1982 International with 188k (not sure of the hours but it was previously owned by a volunteer fire dept so I'm guessing not a lot of idling hours), with a DT466 + MT643 drive train. Ceiling height is 72.5" which is a bummer, but I am taking a welding class at my local community college so I'm thinking I could pull off a roof raise if need be. Asking price is $5k, I can probably talk it down a bit.

I'd love some other opinions on this beast.
Hmmm...sounds really interesting...good luck

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That looks ok. I don't think that's your unicorn though. I think you're settling because it's been so long. It's probably a good bus. It's got most of the right parts.
That's what I think, too. Nice bus, though. Price seems a little steep to me.
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That's what I think, too. Nice bus, though. Price seems a little steep to me.
He did say "all mechanical"...does that mean no ECM/TCM? Won't find newer rig w/o them...

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He did say "all mechanical"...does that mean no ECM/TCM? Won't find newer rig w/o them...

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You can find em as new as 98/99 sometimes.
But the early electronic engines weren't bad. Its midway through the 2000's they get crappy.
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You can find em as new as 98/99 sometimes.
But the early electronic engines weren't bad. Its midway through the 2000's they get crappy.
Ok...nice to know...and the really new ones have def...

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ok...nice to know...and the really new ones have def...

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def, dpf, egr...
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def, dpf, egr...
I've only heard of DEF...

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