Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 01-08-2019, 04:01 PM   #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8
Larger Wheels and Tires

I found a bus I like...International CE, 8 window special needs bus, conventional front, 2004, DT466, Alison2000, no egr, but it has small tires, and I want better ground clearance.

Front tires are 245/70R19.5 with 8 lugs.

It has a flat floor, but adding fender wells doesn't seem like a big project.

What would it take to increase up to 22.5 wheels?
TomL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 04:09 PM   #2
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 17,803
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomL View Post
I found a bus I like...International CE, 8 window special needs bus, conventional front, 2004, DT466, Alison2000, no egr, but it has small tires, and I want better ground clearance.

Front tires are 245/70R19.5 with 8 lugs.

It has a flat floor, but adding fender wells doesn't seem like a big project.

What would it take to increase up to 22.5 wheels?
I'm not bus wheel expert, but that would be a nice upgrade if you're looking for more clearance. Look around and see if they sell em in 8 lug. I've only ever had 10 lug or Daytons.
The hubs would need to be swapped if you can't find 8 lug wheels. I have no idea if they even make those so find that out first. I may just be pissing in the wind here.
My IC had 19.5's and was upgraded to 22.5's. Make sure your suspension isn't one of the super low ones. Some handi-buses are basically lowriders and getting clearance on one of those would be more work and money.
My IC has 2" lowered suspension. My Thomas has 6" lifted suspension.
The parts are out there to raise your bus up a bit so if that's what you're aiming for its just a matter or calling around and paying for the parts when you find out just what you need.
__________________
.
Roll Your Own Build Thread
EastCoastCB is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 04:17 PM   #3
Bus Nut
 
Jolly Roger bus 223's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 811
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
Someone else posted this link a little while ago.
To tech challenged to copy and paste?
Look at
www.accuridewheelendsolution...ct-Catalog.pdf
It helped me find what I need to change tire sizes
Jolly Roger bus 223 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 04:40 PM   #4
Bus Geek
 
o1marc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 6,511
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
Don't know if I can help because we know nothing about you, where are you from etc. Go to the user CP and fill out your profile so we can better assist you. With that said, if you can convert to a 10 lug hub I have a full set of 6-22.5 wheels and tires for sale. Are you close enough to take advantage of them? While wheel tubs are easy to make, you are only adding 1.5" in height, they may clear the floor if your not fully loaded and hitting big bumps in the road.
o1marc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 06:26 PM   #5
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 817
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
also make sure it does not have a flat floor, if it does, you will not be able to fit larger wheels without jacking it up
Kubla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 06:31 PM   #6
Bus Geek
 
Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,461
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
And...
it would be a good idea to confirm your rpms/speed with a tire size change. Could be a good thing...or maybe not. Either way you need to know before investing in tires and/or wheels.
Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 06:31 PM   #7
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 4,454
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomL View Post

It has a flat floor, but adding fender wells doesn't seem like a big project.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla View Post
also make sure it does not have a flat floor, if it does, you will not be able to fit larger wheels without jacking it up
.................................................. ..
PNW_Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 09:14 AM   #8
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8
Thanks for your replies.

I'm in Phoenix.



The bus is designed to be low to the ground...who wants to lift a kid in a wheelchair higher than necessary?


Changing wheels and tires only adds a couple inches (thanks Marc). A bigger win would be achieved by changing the big steel forging that goes across the front. The one on this bus is u-shaped: the wheels attach higher on the ends, putting the horizontal portion low to the ground. If my memory is correct, I'd call this a 4-inch lowered suspension. If I could find one that goes straight across, the front would be good to go...but I'd need to make sure the steering links, etc still work. If this is doable, I may go ahead and get the bus.



I could search for bus salvage...what other business might have these sorts of parts?
TomL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 09:20 AM   #9
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 17,803
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomL View Post
Thanks for your replies.

I'm in Phoenix.



The bus is designed to be low to the ground...who wants to lift a kid in a wheelchair higher than necessary?


Changing wheels and tires only adds a couple inches (thanks Marc). A bigger win would be achieved by changing the big steel forging that goes across the front. The one on this bus is u-shaped: the wheels attach higher on the ends, putting the horizontal portion low to the ground. If my memory is correct, I'd call this a 4-inch lowered suspension. If I could find one that goes straight across, the front would be good to go...but I'd need to make sure the steering links, etc still work. If this is doable, I may go ahead and get the bus.



I could search for bus salvage...what other business might have these sorts of parts?
My lifted bus is a WC bus. The WC lift goes down to the ground just like any other handi-bus.
The u-shaped thing is the front axle beam. I'm pretty sure they're all the same. The suspension height is likely the result of different spacers, leafs, or other suspension components. My bus has factory 6" lift block spacers. A standard height would be more or less the same stuff minus the block spacers. Not sure how they get em lower but its porbably a lower profile stiffer leaf spring.
__________________
.
Roll Your Own Build Thread
EastCoastCB is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 09:55 AM   #10
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8
It's the front axle beam that's limiting the ground clearance. Not much point in lifting the other stuff if I can't lift the beam.
TomL is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.