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Old 01-11-2018, 08:16 AM   #1
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Lead Pipe Strength?

So I was looking at ways to add a top deck on our future bus and was wondering if lead pipes have sufficient strength to be used as the mounting hardware?

I love that pipe shelve type style and though it might look cool as I plan to bring it in the bus as well.

Something like this only less industrial or clean and polished maybe?
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:25 AM   #2
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So I was looking at ways to add a top deck on our future bus and was wondering if lead pipes have sufficient strength to be used as the mounting hardware?

I love that pipe shelve type style and though it might look cool as I plan to bring it in the bus as well.

Something like this only less industrial or clean and polished maybe?
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No.

Lead pipes are fun as heck, though. Pb & j, I like to say.

Lead aint cheap- are you digging-up Flint, Mi water mains? Where you finding all the lead?

Those shelves are usually made with steel sch 40 black pipe.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:29 AM   #3
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Ok, how about regular pipe then? Like the stuff they use to make those DIY book shelves and the like...

Here is a video about the general type of materials I guess, looking for feedback and ideas.

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A few more choices for you,

Rigid electrical conduit, galvanized with and without threading if necessary

Electrical metallic tubing, emt, no threading, but strong enough in short lengths and larger diameters.

Both rigid and emt are galvanized for corrosion protection.

Lastly, aluminum conduit, needing threads but strong, lightweight, no rust.

All look good painted or natural finish. lots of suitable fittings for mounting and fastening deck materials. Easy assembly no matter which material is used and the deck will come out square and professional looking if you measure all your piping correctly.
Gives you a raceway for wiring if need be to the deck inside the piping and to whatever.

I am going to do roof deck (platform) and use rigid conduit, probably 1" dia, so plenty strong for most uses.

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Ok, how about regular pipe then? Like the stuff they use to make those DIY book shelves and the like...

Here is a video about the general type of materials I guess, looking for feedback and ideas.
Ok, so steel gas pipe- sch 40. The problem with using steel pipe isn't the pipe price- it's reasonable, sturdy, chic. The problem is the fittings are expensive and those threaded flange fittings are redonculously priced. Bus project WILL be expensive, so save it for something essential- like insulation- and build shelves from less expensive materials, unless you have 'source' ...

If you could weld the pipe together and forego the fittings, perhaps, but I'm guessing you aren't a lead welder?

Spend some time watching the skoolie builds on youtube for ideas.

Look on craigslist for free materials, Angie's List, etc. Ask around. Dumpster dive.
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Uhhh...none of what I see is "lead" pipe. Just plain old galvanized plumbing pipe. And why go to all the bother and expense using umpteen dozen $$$ fittings?

Would be cheaper/better to hire a welder and just use some square steel tube. That could be knocked out in 20 minutes. Besides...round rungs on a metal ladder are bad idea to begin with.
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Ok, so maybe we were a bit hasty.

If you really like the look, it could be for a focal piece or even railings /handles/towel bars, etc.

We are just grumpy old fabricators.
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Bear in mind that threaded pipe is not structural. The threads cut pretty deep so a pipe that looks like 1/8" wall when cut it turns out to be much thinner at the root of the threads. It's still plenty strong to support itself (obviously!) and it's great for a decorative look where strength isn't an issue, but I recommend not using threaded pipe and fittings as the structural foundation for anything where failure would be problematic.
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If we are talking about roof platforms, I tend to agree.

The standard method is to weld up the frame from steel tube, and bolt it to the ribs.

It's reasonably economical, and it works.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:55 PM   #10
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Yeah thats true, but look at the link I posted in the OP, those are badass.

But cost a couple hundred in hardware I bet.
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