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Old 11-03-2015, 01:06 PM   #1
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less than favorable roads

Im trying to better understand where a bus can go, both a rear engine(forward control?) and a front engine.

Im hoping to use this for a toy hauler and camper when taking out the dirt bikes. I dont intend to go wheeling in the bus but it will end up on dirt roads.
I notice the front engine bus's are always pretty high off the ground which would help. but how is traction on a dirt road, or in something like soft sand? Does it do OK with the 4 wheels in the back?

I'm comparing it to what a 4x4 f350 could do with a big 5th wheel for instance. a 4x4 super duty could tow a 5th wheel through things sand or a wash without too much difficulty for instance. you would be unlikely to get stuck(though its possible).

And then how would the chassis hold upto adding a drive axle in the front, i know that last bit is a lot of work, but it may be my only option.

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Old 11-03-2015, 01:26 PM   #2
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I went up a pretty steep dirt road last weekend. It did alright. I'm not too sure how it'd work on sand/mud/anything a 2WD truck would get stuck in.

I forgot to mention:
-It's a front engine flat nosed bus.
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-It's somewhere in the 7-10 ton range, most of that on the front axle. (I've gotta get it weighed again).
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:31 PM   #3
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I have only owned one rear engine bus but many front engine buses. I think the front engine buses are better suited for dirt roads. Just make sure you have a solid transmission. I backed off the pavement once and thought I would need to have someone pull me back up onto the pavement. I am talking 6 inches.
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For heavy duty dirt road use, I'd look for a shorter sized conventional dog nose bus.
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:00 PM   #5
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Dog nose front engine.

Nothing rear engine.

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Dog nose front engine.

Nothing rear engine.

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Old 11-03-2015, 05:23 PM   #7
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measure the foot print of the tires

The only way to know for sure if you can go the same place as a f350 truck is to find the surface area of the tires that actually touch the ground and divide it by the weight of the bus.
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Old 11-03-2015, 10:47 PM   #8
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With a 2wd Tires will make a bigger difference where you can and cannot go than on a 4wd. So pony up the pesos to get the correct treads for where you want to take it.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:34 PM   #9
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Busses should not be driven on sand, too much weight on too narrow of tires. It would be like trying to drive through a couple feet of snow. They however to ok on grassland, even mushey wet land as long as you keep your speed faster than one might like, and eventually you will get very stuck!
When taking a vehicle like a bus off road, especially without a locker in the rear, you WILL get stuck eventually and you will realize just how heavy a bus is.



On gravel and dirt roads school busses do ok. The ride is very rough, but 60mph feels perfectly safe.
I would also recommend a manual transmision.
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This is the last time I got stuck...
No help from locking duals...
A Cat D6 dozer came in handy though.
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