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Old 07-30-2014, 11:08 PM   #11
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:21 AM   #12
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I've seen a few articulated buses converted to RVs, and I think they to to 60'. Google is your friend - check out this articulated, double-decker Neoplan behemoth:

http://english.derbus.de
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:38 AM   #13
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That bus is in Germany, they have different rules than we do.

Granted, I don't know what they are (my ability to read German, while passable, is not that fantastic). SO I could be blowing smoke outta my butt (...ow).
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Re: Longest School Bus newer than 1994

ABQ has a few articulated buses on the road. I think they are phasing them out. If you need bigger, you might want to make your own articulated bus by getting a second bus, chop the front off, make a permanent pivot connection. You should be able to buy a bellows type gizmo as I've seen them on semi-trucks. I would suggest you use shorty buses and find out what the OVERALL length that is allowed for your titling state.
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Re: Longest School Bus newer than 1994

Yep. In Ontario anyway, articulated buses, motor coaches, motor homes, and a couple others are exempt from the 40' rule (See my previous post, Exceptions 4 and 5). I've never seen an articulated school bus, so I still stand by 40' being the longest you'll find for a school bus. Articulated transit buses can be found, but driving one outside of it's intended city would be crazy. Ottawa - a city I'm quite familiar with - uses them, but only on bus-only transit ways, or routes that they've been authorized for. You won't see them going through neighbourhoods since they're such awkward machines.

If you plan on doing any real travelling just buy a normal sized vehicle Otherwise you'll end up being a full on stress-case anytime you drive somewhere new.
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..If you plan on doing any real traveling just buy a normal sized vehicle Otherwise you'll end up being a full on stress-case anytime you drive somewhere new.
My suggestion also. Just need to scale back on the ideas a bit. You can't shove a 2000SF house inside a less than 300SF space without loosing a few things. Rework your floor plan in sections. Plan your "must haves" in minimum sizes first... toilets take up X", shower takes up X", your minimum amount of space to stand up in front of the toilet is X" (tip: place a bucket, upside down close to a wall, stand between the bucket and the wall but facing the wall, sit down on the bucket, pushing the bucket back as needed. Next, stand up, pushing the bucket back as needed... measure the distance from the wall to the bucket. This is your minimum amount of space you need in front of your toilet. To find the width you need is similar but "box in" the bucket on the sides with lightweight movable objects then pretend to "do your business" to see how much elbow room you need... showers are similar... go find some small ones to stand in and then take measurements... take a notepad and tape measure to an RV lot or show). Start blocking out the problem areas like the wheel wells first. Get a fairly precise idea as to where your plumbing is going to have to go (can't just put tankage anywhere under the bus, there's other stuff under there too). Doesn't have to be exact but within a foot. Keep in mind that treads do sling off of tires and a broken waste valve/tank is not only nasty but illegal in most places. You need to have a very good idea as to the sizes (widthXheightXdepth) of your appliances (include "door swing") and furniture (like beds). Figure out how much space you need for hallways, walkways etc (you will not want to turn sideways to get past stuff on a regular basis). If you use scaled paper cutouts, you can push and shove things in odd positions either on paper or actually in your bus. Some things you will need to build your floor plan around. We built our galley floor plan around my 30" home range. Everything else in the galley was pushed, flipped, moved and stacked to make everything work out. We did the same with our old bed frame (we kept a 25+yo four poster king sized water bed but ended up cutting down the frame to make it into a full size and accept a standard mattress). We simply used everything past the rear wheel wells (10 ft) as the bedroom since that was one of the last things we laid out on our floor plan. The galley & bathroom was the first since we knew they had to go between the front & rear wheel wells. After we got everything all settled out, we taped it down on the floor in duct tape and walked it. Ripped up sections of tape, re-taped and walked it some more until it felt right. Part of why it took us so long to get our floor plan down was I had several pieces of furniture that were being put in the bus come hell or high water. They are all in the bus right now, in their allotted spaces (the big rocking chair was the biggest pain as we had to cut the rockers down on the late 1800's chair.... thought Das Mel would freak when we first told her what had to be done to get it into the bus... it's a great book reading chair that we have had for almost as long as we had Das Mel). You need to tape your potential floor plans down in full size. I was a former designer that worked in scale all the time. We can easily read blueprints and visualize them. We still taped our floor plan down and walked it. Duct tape and cardboard boxes are easily moved. Walls, built in cabinetry and plumbing are not.

But it's your bus, you do what you feel is right for you.
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(the big rocking chair was the biggest pain as we had to cut the rockers down on the late 1800's chair.... thought Das Mel would freak when we first told her what had to be done to get it into the bus... it's a great book reading chair that we have had for almost as long as we had Das Mel).
I did freak.

I admit, I cried.

It looks so wee now.
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If you want over 40 feet you can get yourself one of these for about 6 grand. 60 feet of space... not a skoolie but there pretty nice.
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Hi all,

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I've seen a few articulated buses converted to RVs, and I think they to to 60'. Google is your friend -
That would be a very exceptional thing!! Most of Europe is limited to 12m any single unit, 18m total for a articulated trailer and 16m semi-trailer.
Some areas are now running tests with unit-length up to 24m...

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But it's not in the cards for me. I would likely have problems driving something that big.
Mel - girl, you would not have ANY problem to drive that!! IF you have trouble it would be going back to lowly cars!!


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Mel - girl, you would not have ANY problem to drive that!! IF you have trouble it would be gonig back to lowly cars!!
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