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Old 07-30-2014, 01:41 PM   #1
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Longest School Bus newer than 1994

Hello everyone!

As past of the bus selection process, I would like to learn about what is available in "plus" sizes. I'm not really interested in adding a second floor (although I might make a roof deck) nor am I interested in learning to drive an articulated behemoth of a skoolie. I wondering what's the longest school bus I can get my hands on from the last 20 years (I'm kind of apprehensive about buying anything older than that). And by longest I'm speaking strictly about interior cabin room, not bumper to bumper (although I would assume those two correlate).

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Not positive, but I think I read somewhere that 40 ft is max for a school bus. A flat nose is going to give you most interior space.
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Not positive, but I think I read somewhere that 40 ft is max for a school bus. A flat nose is going to give you most interior space.
40ft?? Why? Can I somehow bump out the back to give myself more room?
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There aren't very many buses of any kind over 40 ft. There a few motor coaches that are 45, really expensive stuff.
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There aren't very many buses of any kind over 40 ft. There a few motor coaches that are 45, really expensive stuff.
That's quite surprising to me, actually. Guess I better start looking at where I can trim the fat off my design
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There aren't all that many class A motor homes over 40.
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Re: Longest School Bus newer than 1994

I don't think you'll ever find a bus longer than 40'. Reason being that some (all?) provinces/states have 40' as the maximum allowable vehicle length.

Quote from Ontario's 2011 "Guide to Vehicle Weight and Dimensions" booklet:

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The maximum length of an individual vehicle is 12.5m, as measured from the most
forward part of the vehicle, equipment or load, to the most rearward part of the vehicle,
equipment or load, HTA s109(6).

Exceptions
1. Mirrors that extends beyond the front of a vehicle are excluded from the
measure, HTA s109(13);
2. Liquid-filled or other energy absorbing bumpers on a bus or motor home (RV)
are excluded from the measure, HTA s109(11);
3. Fire apparatus and road service vehicle, for which no limit is specified,
HTA s109(`6.1);
4. Semi-trailer, as specified below, HTA s109 (10) (10.2);
5. Intercity Motor Coach, motor home (RV) and articulated bus, as specified
below, HTA s109(11.1);
6. Full trailer in a SPIF truck-trailer combination, HTA s109(6.2) and Reg 413/05
schedule 28. In this case, the drawbar of the trailer is excluded from the
measure although the 23m overall combination length continues to apply.
General Exceptions
1. Aerodynamic devices described in (D) above are exempt from vehicle length.
Note that 12.5 meters is just a hair over 40 feet.

There's probably a good reason that 40 feet is the max. It probably gets factored in when building intersections, curves, on-ramps for roadways.
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Re: Longest School Bus newer than 1994

If ya need something longer than 40' then might I suggest a semi truck and a 53' trailer? There's a wonderful company out there (called Kingsly) that I drooled over when I found out they actually converted trucking trailers.

I wanted one. So. Very. Hard.

But it's not in the cards for me. I would likely have problems driving something that big.
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It probably gets factored in when building intersections, curves, on-ramps for roadways.
Really? I think you give them credit for more brains than they actually possess. I've run into corners that are hard to navigate
in a 40 foot bus. There are on ramps in New Jersey that you can't get a 53 foot trailer around without running up on the curb.
There are stinking planters in the middle of intersections all over the Seattle area. I'm convinced that the parking spaces in new
malls are laid out by a computer. "You can get X amount of cars in a given space if you make the spaces only 3 inches wider than the cars."
Ever drive a full size 4 door pickup into a city? Especially in the east.
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Really? I think you give them credit for more brains than they actually possess.
City planners have brains?
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