Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-07-2017, 10:19 AM   #1
Bus Crazy
 
joeblack5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 1,408
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford e350 2 mercedes
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
Low floor bus information request

Hello Folks,
I need some help from people in the know.

There is a sudden need to convert a low floor 30 ft bus. Earlier discussion mentioned that these are made of Stainless steel and I like that idea a lot. Rust is a very serious structural enemy

This conversion needs to run on long trips and needs to have a kneeling front with handicap ramp that slides or folds.

I do not need the second set of doors between the wheels.
I saw a movie on u tube about the frame assembly of a LF bus , very impressive

Here are the questions for more experienced people.

-Are all Low floor buses made of Stainless, which brands and or years have not?
-Do all LF buses have air suspension?
-What engine transmission would be best in a LF bus for highway use?
-While looking around what use of LF us would not have the second set of doors?
- Any particular weak points that needs attention in LF buses?

Thank you for your help.

J
joeblack5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2017, 11:50 AM   #2
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 11,486
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
ive never seen an LF bus without the second set of doors... in the City-Bus transit world, the accepted way is for riders to exit rear and enter front., even the Shorties that columbus runs has both sets of doors. all of them seem to have the Kneeling front air suspension.
-Christopher
cadillackid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2017, 12:52 PM   #3
Bus Crazy
 
joeblack5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 1,408
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford e350 2 mercedes
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
Thanks Chris,

This is one I found...
just and example that they were around, like to know what and why . The second door is not critical just nice if I do not have to close it of.

The stainless steel questions and where they have weak points is more important.





https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=1014501

later J
joeblack5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2017, 11:49 PM   #4
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 19
The Gillig low floors have a fairly thick stainless steel floorpan than runs continuously through the length of the bus; they also have an aluminum chassis. Not all low floors have a stainless steel floorpan. Somebody on here actually made a really good thread about their 35 got Gillig low floor conversion.

Sent from my ASUS_X008DC using Tapatalk
Lokk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2017, 04:54 PM   #5
Bus Crazy
 
joeblack5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 1,408
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford e350 2 mercedes
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
Thanks Lokk,

I will search some more,
I knew the gilligs LF are Stainless, did not know about the aluminum. Any idea what models.
Hope to find more info on other brands.

Any body?

Thank you ,Later J
joeblack5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2017, 05:43 PM   #6
Bus Crazy
 
joeblack5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 1,408
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford e350 2 mercedes
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
Found some low floor eldorado buses CNG with a 5.9 cummins, wonder how hard to bring them back to diesel?

My 95 yr old mom might come and live with us. Elfie would be to hard to get in and has no bathroom but a low floor can handle a wheel chair easy.
I need a shower and bathroom for her so a 30 ft is probably enough.
She needs a raised handicap toilet, figured that i could get a stainless version out of an old coach and have a smaller black water tank below it.
Then I need a comfy chair and bath/ shower in the middle section and a bed / coach on the other side. Our bed room and storage in the back. May be a kitchen on the passenger font wheel and a bunk beds for the kids above the other wheel.



First need to know more about these Low floor buses.


Later J
joeblack5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2017, 06:21 PM   #7
Bus Geek
 
Robin97396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
A transit bus would make a good mother in law house. The slider windows are easier than school bus windows and the hand rails would likely be useful.
__________________
Robin
Nobody's Business
Robin97396 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2017, 07:32 PM   #8
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 829
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
you would have to change the engine to convert back to diesel, you would be better off buying a bus with a normal diesel engine
Kubla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2017, 10:08 PM   #9
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 814
Year: 1990
Coachwork: integral
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
Or get a toy hauler enclosed trailer for your mother. Low floor, ramp for a wheelchair, she can have her space and you have yours - what's not to like? Some of them even have a loo and bed already. Think of it as a granny flat on wheels.

And for your MIL how about an open trailer? Just strap her down good and tight so she doesn't blow away at speed.

Just kidding . . .

John
Iceni John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2017, 05:18 AM   #10
Bus Crazy
 
joeblack5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 1,408
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford e350 2 mercedes
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
Thanks guys,

I have plenty of straps.
My Mom starts to dement and we, our family feels she's best of with us.
As with 95 years I have to take in kindly on her to not tire her out to much.
In overall that means that our Elfie trip experience has to change somewhat. There is some need to travel for my work and for the kids to expose them to new sights and sites. Mom has to come along in a very easy way. I think a handicap lift is already to difficult so hence my reesoning for a LF floor with ramp.
On the great side is that this creates the opportunity to convert something bigger. Converting is a part of the enjoyment , at least for me. Already dreaming about this adventure.


I was not sure about the natural gas or availability. I can see if I can talk with the local bus depot.
5.9 engines are easy to come by. The prices of CNG buses seem to be very favourable.
I was in the hope that a diesel head and mechanical fuel pump would be all that is needed. May be pistons?

Any body knows something about frames of eldorado's LF??
I did a google search for it ut did not have much luck.

Later J
joeblack5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.