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05-08-2016, 01:16 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: on the land of tejas; state of mind
Posts: 86
Year: 95
Coachwork: Amtran ss-33
Chassis: Int 3800
Engine: dt444E
Rated Cap: 29,000
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marvin the martian raygun air conditioning
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05-08-2016, 01:24 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Is that for use while in motion?
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05-08-2016, 05:00 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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that will bring some air in... and the bugs and the rain too
-CHristopher
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05-08-2016, 05:53 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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I wouldn't want to behind you when that thing comes off.
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05-08-2016, 05:55 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: onboard
Posts: 235
Year: 97
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: BadMuthaFuka
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: All of us
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that is quite the contraption! man i really hope my family never has to drive behind you though, perhaps a LOT more securing is in order. when , not if, that thing flies off pray that it doesn't hurt anyone!
the idea is sound though. need different materials, maybe hood scoop off old hot rod would work safer and better, or something that shape. then you could put cover on it and be able to open and close it from the inside. maybe even be able to swivel it to not be a water grabber when raining.
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05-08-2016, 07:37 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
I wouldn't want to behind you when that thing comes off.
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That was my thinking.
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05-08-2016, 01:34 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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My old Ford shorty just has a simple air scoop on the side with a flap to block it off. If you've ever driven through bees on the highway you'll be glad you can close the scoop.
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05-08-2016, 09:24 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 61
Year: 2002
Coachwork: tc2000
Chassis: blue bird
Engine: cummings 5.9
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HAHAH, that is great! I'm dying laughing. You really need to secure that thing WAY more.
But The idea of moving air around in there is a good one. I like the hood scoop idea, or maybe one of those fresh air vents you see on enclosed trailers, but make it swivel like jester said.
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05-08-2016, 11:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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It would be nice if the vent could be adjusted from inside so it would either blow fresh air while facing forward, or draw air out by facing backward.
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05-09-2016, 11:08 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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It does look... intimidating. Like a giant vacuum cleaner with an itty bitty intake racing down the road, slurping up.. whatever things dwell at 9 ft above the pavement.
How about an RV roof vent cover turned to face the "wrong" way so it's an air scoop instead?
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05-09-2016, 11:17 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
My old Ford shorty just has a simple air scoop on the side with a flap to block it off. If you've ever driven through bees on the highway you'll be glad you can close the scoop.
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years ago a group of us were on a trip in an old Land-rover somewhere in arizona.. We tossed the A/C belt somewhere along the way.. the people in the back seat hated us opening the windows.. but below the windshield it had these vents that popped open.. they had screens in them to catch any debris..
yeah the screens Worked when we hit that mob of bugs.. some kind of bees or flies.. the screens caught the BUGS but the 2 of us in the front seat got our faces sprayed with bug GUTS!!
the next town we found we hit the Local truck stop then Napa to buy a socket set and an A/C belt!!
-Christopher
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05-09-2016, 03:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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With 4 big round holes already there...the fauxaldiyraygunmailboxsewervent...didn't need to be built
kind of looks like a humming bird feeder or old Motorola player, depending on paint choice, why OP? is it just a code when you where bored?
If not I apologize and add that would get you pulled over in a lot of locales
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05-09-2016, 04:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,715
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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I'm not much of a fan of what you have here for all the reasons others have mentioned. I can't tell from your avatar, but you should have a fresh air supply on your bus controlled by a knob by the driver. The exterior vent for that is here circled in red
If you don't have that, I would think you should still have some sort of external air source to come out of the vents.
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05-10-2016, 09:14 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 722
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 RE
Engine: 8.3l Cummins
Rated Cap: 78
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Mega maid!
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05-10-2016, 09:39 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 218
Year: 1997
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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SHE'S GONE FROM 'SUCK' TO 'BLOW'!
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05-11-2016, 12:12 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: on the land of tejas; state of mind
Posts: 86
Year: 95
Coachwork: Amtran ss-33
Chassis: Int 3800
Engine: dt444E
Rated Cap: 29,000
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what is illegal or unlawful about the air vent? is unconventional against the law or codes? provide evidence and not opinion.
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05-11-2016, 12:23 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: on the land of tejas; state of mind
Posts: 86
Year: 95
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Engine: dt444E
Rated Cap: 29,000
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fresh air opening is flat, on the side, by small louvers in a no pressure zone and provides near zero airflow. when boundary layer air adhesion is lost the flow becomes negative. the air scoop survived a 280 mile trip without movement as configured so the detractors would have followed from driveway to driveway without event.
just sayin..........
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05-11-2016, 01:34 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Think it would stay on in one of those Texas Tornadoes you guys are famous for???
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05-11-2016, 04:16 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: on the land of tejas; state of mind
Posts: 86
Year: 95
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Chassis: Int 3800
Engine: dt444E
Rated Cap: 29,000
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yea everybody missed the 6" screw band clamp on the front near the register box sheet metal. but yet they trust pressurized air oil and water to the same screw band clamps. very "dual minded" imo.
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05-11-2016, 06:24 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: onboard
Posts: 235
Year: 97
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: BadMuthaFuka
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: All of us
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no one was trying to offend you. it just plain physics, you have a bunch of plastic and sheet metal bailing wired to the windy roof of a school bus traveling fast. pipe clamp or not man that just not safe. i can pull a sheet metal screw out so i know the wind can. i think if you just put a plumbing sweep out any of the windows on side of bus you would have same result with half the risk of hurting someone. besides its the people behind you that you are putting in harms way, not you, doesn't that worry you?? and you really dont think the police are going to pull you over for it??
all the air oil and water that is clamped is to the frame or thick steel and WAY out of the wind, or path in which something, anything, can hit it or damage it. like i said , think of the people behind you on the road.
by the way i liked the ingenuity of it and just suggested safer materials.
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