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Old 09-17-2006, 12:48 AM   #1
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Need a lift to load motorcycles into bus

Was curious if I could convert a wheelchair lift, but I don't want it to take to much room either
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:04 AM   #2
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a fold down ramp would be a much more simple and lighter design.....but a lift would be fun too.

what does a lift weigh? 1000 pounds?

you could make the ramp fold up/down with hydraulic or electric actuaters.
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Old 09-17-2006, 02:44 PM   #3
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I think a ramp would be better for a bike. Since most wheelchair lifts are only rated to around 600 to 700 pounds capacity. And trust me when you put more than 500 pounds on them they do start to struggle a bit.
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:31 AM   #4
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ramp

I have a 12' ramp that I load my bikes with and it works out very well. I cut a pattern out of the sheet metal under the door and cut all the cross members the same and it slides in under the floor. I keep a padlock on it to keep in position and from walking off on it's own. I made a couple of slots in the ledge right under the door and it sits flush with the floor when in loading position. Also helping to decrease the angle of the ramp is 4 2x12's I glued and nailed together and drive the bus onto to bring the rearend down about the same amount. sportyrick
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:49 AM   #5
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Does anyone have any photo's. I am looking at building a small deck on the back that will accomidate a honda goldwing (heavy) and a hitch. It needs to allow the bike being ridden up one side and off the other. I think it can be made beefy enough, however I am concerned about the angle of aproach for getting such a large bike on and off a tall deck or rear platform.

Has anyone done or seen somthing similiar?

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Old 09-18-2006, 11:11 AM   #6
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both phill and I have rear decks. I put my V-max (~600 pounds) on the rack. I'm sure your bike is significantly hevier, but you could easily build or have built a rack to accomidate the weight.

as for the approach angle, i try to minimize how far off the ground my rear porch is when loading. IF i park in the city, i load/unload onto the curb. that changes things about 10" or so. If i'm out in the country (where i live) then it's pretty easy to find a hill you can back the rear porch on top of that brings it really close to the ground. Sometimes i can just about ride off of the porch without a ramp because it's just a couple inches fromthe ground. All it really takes is anything to raise your front tires higher than the rear.

this is not my bus, but is a good example of a simple porch construction. I think my and phills porch are pretty much the same as this one.

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So is the hitch reciever off the back of the porch? Or is that what your deck is attached into?

I hadn't thought about using landscape to assist in loading and unloading.

Thanks for the picture, it's a bit smaller (strength) than I think will work as my bikes 800lbs.

Do you find it bottoms out on approaches and departures? When I had my hitch still it hung down a bit I touched out in it quite frequently.

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i'll try and shoot some photos of my rear deck. it's curently off of my bus. I've been slacking in the photo department lately.

What i did was add some 3" channell iron to basically "extend" the rear frame of the bus. the channel iron fits inside of the bus fram rails and is simply bolted in place with 6 large diameter bolts.....1/2" diameter i think....


I cannot use my hitch when the rear deck is in place, so i have to choose one or the other....

as for bottoming out, i don't think as of yet that it has been an issue, but it certianly is possible. The ultimate design for a rear deck would incorporate a hinge that allows the deck to pivot if it were to bottom out. Currently the deck would get bent pretty bad if it were to bottom out significantly.
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That's a great idea about a back-up hinge. I hadn't thought of that one. Do you think it's possible to have somthing strong enough to hold a large bike, the deck itself AND tow a trailer? How overbuilt would it need to be? I like the idea of somthing perminant so welding and bolting to the frame seem reasonable for strength at attachment points. Except for the hitch that is, as it is illegal in many places to have a hitch welded to the frame.

Thanks for taking your time to post some photo's, I look forward to seeing them.

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i think that having a deck and pulling a trailer at the same time is like having your cake and eating it too....perhaps a bit too optimistic. Not to say it couldn't be done.....anything is possible with a skoolie. What size trailer are we talking? Another question besides strength is how far the rear of the deck is from your rear wheels. This extended overhang might give you problems with towing the trailer.

IF you built the rear deck out of some serious iron you could make it strong enough.

IF you still need to pull the trailer, perhaps you'd be better off fabricating the rear portion of the bus to hold your bike. Perhaps have a door that opens on each side near the rear of the bus so you can ride in, then ride back out the other side.
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