Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-29-2009, 12:24 PM   #11
Skoolie
 
tfdfyrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Claremore, ok
Posts: 102
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe-T-Liner
Engine: CAT 3208 Turbo
Rated Cap: 84
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

I'm in Claremore, Ok. It is bassically N.E. of Tulsa, Ok. N.E. corner of the State.
tfdfyrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 10:34 PM   #12
Bus Nut
 
GoneCamping's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 704
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

As stated, the Cat 3208 is nearly bullit proof, they put them things in trucks, buses and bull dozers for many years. I work for a truck dealer (Cat Cummins & Det Diesel authorized) and you can bet there are so many 3208's out there the parts will be available for a long time to come, they still sell rebuild kits for them too.

Mine is Naturally Aspirated (non-turbo) and has done just fine, it'll hold it's own going up a grade even with the Jeep in tow. Not sure how much better the turbo would be, I'm sure it's gotta be better but I wouldn't be afraid of a Naturally Aspirated one. The motors no longer comply with current emissions standards so Cat has stopped making them. Mine has 191,000 miles on it and still runs great.
__________________
*Cliff*

You just might be a Redneck if...
...your motor home used to be a school bus!
...Your living room has a steering wheel!
...Your home has brake lights

1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1989 Thomas Diesel Pusher (Cat 3208/Freightliner)
Chesapeake, Virginia
GoneCamping is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2009, 12:13 PM   #13
Skoolie
 
tfdfyrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Claremore, ok
Posts: 102
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe-T-Liner
Engine: CAT 3208 Turbo
Rated Cap: 84
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by vanguy67
Quote:
Originally Posted by tfdfyrman
I'm in Claremore, Ok. It is bassically N.E. of Tulsa, Ok. N.E. corner of the State.
I know where you are! I used to live on South Peoria Ave in Tulsa. I worked at Valmont Industries in north Tulsa for a couple of years.

If I found a good bus for you here in Nashville, TN...I'd drive it out to ya just to see some of my old friends.

Did you go look at this bus that's on the Tulsa craigslist site: http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bfs/1192411349.html ??

He's had both of these buses for a while. (He actually has 2 for sale..or did), I talked to him on the phone about them but, at the time, he was kinda hinky about the titles. He said he bought them both from a school and they had just signed the titles over to him. I asked him when he would get the titles back in his name as I wouldn't buy a bus without a clear title and he hemmed and hawed around and never gave me an answer. I think he planned to sell them to someone with just a bill-of-sale to avoid him having to pay the taxes on them.....I blew it off.

They're supposedly sitting right off of the turnpike on the west side of Tulsa....

Yeah I am going to look at it today. That is the one I am referring to with the CAT engine.
tfdfyrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2009, 04:51 PM   #14
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wimberley, Tx
Posts: 197
Year: 93
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: ?
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

I bought my bus just east of Dallas...is that within your area? When I bought a few weeks ago. He had two Thomas's and one BlueBird. The were almost identical. I bought one of the Thomas's. He was looking to move them. I had my choice at $2000. I still have his number if you want to call him. These buse are out of college station....no rust.

Be very patient grasshopper.....

After looking over my bus and what I want to do with it I should have held out for a pusher that had the storage underneath. I have to build it now and it will prove time consuming and costly I am sure. I did find a flat face and a cummins, which was non negotiable...what can I say Im partial. The others were flat faced as well.
swhite832 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2009, 06:59 PM   #15
Skoolie
 
tfdfyrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Claremore, ok
Posts: 102
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe-T-Liner
Engine: CAT 3208 Turbo
Rated Cap: 84
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

Well I am back. I went and looked at it. Settled on a price of $2500. I am supposed to go get it tomorrow with the stipulation that he can get it running. (The batteries were dead) Fluilds are all full and relatively clean, has 124k on the odometer and just under 10k hours on it (don't no if that is good or bad.) It is a Thomas 75th aniversary 35' Pusher the with a non turbo CAT3208/Allison 643 combo. It has a little damage to the drivers side on the ribs unfortumatley but I think I can deal with that. He said it ran like a champ at 70mph down the highway. Seemed like a pretty honest guy. He even got on to one of his employees for cussing in front of me kids, Which I respect someone that is aware of things like that. Anyway, I'm pretty excited and nervous at the same time. It's a big project and I'm a profectionist so this is libile to cost a lot of money in the long run.

Chad
tfdfyrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2009, 07:58 AM   #16
Skoolie
 
tfdfyrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Claremore, ok
Posts: 102
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe-T-Liner
Engine: CAT 3208 Turbo
Rated Cap: 84
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

He has the title in hand. I looked at it yesterday. What the deal is, is that it was signed over to him by the school trans. dept. I am meeting him at the tag office this morning. He said they will know the "best" way to do it. However, is the past what he has done is add the buyers name to the title. for example, "Baileys Salvage OR John Doe" And when you fill out the address part of the title it is addressed to John Doe with his address. 3 days later it shows up in your mail box and at that time you have the option of paying $12 to have it put in just your name only. Otherwise it will have to be changed to his name for around $50, mailed to him, then I would have to go get it and do everything over and pay another $50 to change it to my name. Of coarse I will varify that this is how it works with the tag office before I do anything. It is more of a risk on his part than mine. I will have the bus and title, he will have nothing. The "OR" part on the title will allow me to do what I want with it and not have his sig. Sounds confusing but It makes since to me andI have bought and sold many vehicles over the years.

Since these buses are put together is in panels, I was hoping I could replace the damaged one, but I don't know exactly where I would get one to match the style. I'll have to work on that.
tfdfyrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2009, 07:43 PM   #17
Skoolie
 
tfdfyrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Claremore, ok
Posts: 102
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe-T-Liner
Engine: CAT 3208 Turbo
Rated Cap: 84
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

Got it. and it's home. Drove like a dream stopped on a dime. It is indeed a 3208Turbo/allision 643. I spoke with the Jenks Pubilc schools supervisor this morning about it. He said it was a good running bus when it went to auction. Had a ton of information about it simply by memory. He even remembered how many miles were on it. It has gobbs of acceleration power and top speed is governed at 65mph and it just purrs around 2800rpm.
I am a little concerend about the oil pressure though. once it warmed up it idles with pretty low oil pressure, around 10psi. At 1500 RPM it jumps to 45psi and running down the road at speed it runs 50psi. When I come to a stop though it drops to 0psi and the oil light comes on for a second then it jumps back to 10psi at idle. I guess I'll call a CAT mechanic tomorrow. Maybe a oil pump? It runs too darn good to be anything major.....I hope
I'll start a picture album soon.
tfdfyrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2009, 10:24 PM   #18
Skoolie
 
tfdfyrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Claremore, ok
Posts: 102
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe-T-Liner
Engine: CAT 3208 Turbo
Rated Cap: 84
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

Yeah I am going to change the oil before I drive it again. I am worried about the idle pressure though. Driving pressure is good.
Oh, and the title thing worked out great. We went to the tag office that he frequently goes to and the lady had him just sign it over to me and didn't even charge me the penalties. It cost me a total of $86.50 for transfer, registration, excise tax, and a new non commercial tag. I will have the title in the mail in 3 days
tfdfyrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:02 AM   #19
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Winnemucca, NV/Reno NV
Posts: 176
Year: 1980
Coachwork: Gillig 1980, 2003 Thomas E-350 shorty
Chassis: 636/E350
Engine: Cat 3208 NA/7.3
Rated Cap: 78
Re: need advise to buy a schoolie for a conversion

From what I've read, the 3208 can be prone to excessive rod and main bearing wear if idled for excessive periods, or if lugged a lot. With your mileage in a Skoolie, it may be a factor in the low idle pressure. I've seen suggestions to change the bearings every 90K miles. Keep that thing running between 2000 and 2800 rpm, it's not a low RPM motor like some in line 6 cyl engines.
__________________
If it isn't grown, it has to be mined
http://weathersticker.wunderground.c...Winnemucca.gif
elkoskoolie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Please advise ASAP NEED HELP VuduVudu Skoolie Conversion Projects 10 07-16-2014 02:21 PM
Need advise from the VETS putterspitt Conversion General Discussions 6 04-26-2011 11:16 PM
Purchase Advise for 1994 Thomas bus-bro Conversion General Discussions 2 08-21-2010 03:44 PM
I need power advise. Train-train Conversion General Discussions 7 11-02-2007 10:16 PM
Looking for Schoolie conversion or partial or not. greyguzziart Classifieds | Buy, Sell, Swap 1 09-17-2006 10:51 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.