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Old 01-03-2017, 07:50 PM   #1
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need some help please

so, my skoolie isnt starting. im in a colder area and its been low temp for awhile now. add to that the constant use to open and close my doors daily.

i have tried the following:
jump skoolie with 700 amp and 1000 amp jumper box. skoolie didnt start no new issues.

charged the batteries with a 12 amp battery charger. attempted start a few times, have the diseal being heated. skoolie didnt start still, now i also have a buzzing like and alarm coming from my mini electric panel.

i just purchased new 800amp batteries to replace my 700 amp current batteries. plan to replace them in the daytime tomorrow. if that doesnt work, what is my next suggested step to start the skoolie? also should i test all my breakers or is this all a battery relates issue?
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:24 PM   #2
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I had this issue and then realized it was coming from the rear door locking mechanism. Not sure if you've tackled it already or not, but some buses won't start unless the rear door is unlocked.
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Old 01-03-2017, 09:07 PM   #3
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I had this issue and then realized it was coming from the rear door locking mechanism. Not sure if you've tackled it already or not, but some buses won't start unless the rear door is unlocked.
tackled that one already. the system isnt connected anymore, thanks though.
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Old 01-03-2017, 09:58 PM   #4
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Does it turn over? Do you have a block heater or circ heater?
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:04 PM   #5
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What engine? It's cold here, my cummins fires very easy on a single 800 battery. I'd charge them, if you have a heat-gun, heat up your injector pump and then put hot air into the intake. Is it cold enough for your fuel to gel?
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:21 PM   #6
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looks l;ike its a 444E..

put a volt meter on your battery and when you click the key to ON for the wait start light see if you get a significant voltage drop indicating your glow plugs are working..

ultimately you may need ot get under the hood to start testing..

we are all assuming that your starter is spinning? 'renenene'.. ? or is it just click and nothing?

if your starter is spinning but it wont catch.. try giving it about 10-20% throttle on the pedla whilke cranking it.. I notice my redbyrd really likes a little throttle when starting it in cold weather
RedByrd started easilky with 4.5 yeasr old batteries when it was 3 degrees out last time I was in Ohio.. these 444E's will start imn cold weather.. albeit they are LOUD when they are cold.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:42 PM   #7
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okay so i figured it all out. the sound was the child safe buzzer going off I pulled the wire. the bus has started, the batteries i replaced were the issue. had 700 cca x 2 size 31 batteries(tested at 11.63 volts and 177 amps), I replaced them with 950 cca x 2 size 31 batteries. Nelson edward jr is purring now
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