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Old 11-21-2014, 07:48 AM   #11
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Re: New - 1st time bus purchase questions

I've been with Farm Bureau for the last 15 years with my home and autos. I checked with them before I bought the bus they also told me no problem after it was converted. After conversion, my agent came over, took pictures and wrote me policy same day. Its less then $150 year for liability. Going on three years now, no problems.

If it were me I would try to find one just out of service. At least that way its been through inspections recently. But on the other hand I like the mechanical diesels. Which I'm sure is getting hard to find just out of service anymore. Probably the best thing is, don't buy the first bus you find. Decide what you need in a bus, and wait for the right one to show up. The bus is the starting platform. If you settle from the beginning, you probably won't be happy in the end.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:00 PM   #12
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farm bearu is GTG, have been using them for years
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:01 PM   #13
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that CL bus is about 8000 to high,
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:55 AM   #14
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Re: New - 1st time bus purchase questions

Probably the best engine tranny setup for you would be a 5.9L Cummins with either a 643 or MD3060 Allison. Both transmissions
are common and easily serviceable and they have lock up converters so they tend to get better mileage. The 643 is a 4 speed transmission
while the MD3060 is a 6 speed but programmed to run as a 5 speed in a bus or fire truck. The MD3060 will give you the highway speeds
you desire without sacrificing low speed pulling ability fifth gear and sixth gear are both overdrive gears @ .75 and .65 ratios.
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:02 PM   #15
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Re: New - 1st time bus purchase questions

Thank you for the replies!

I thought the CL bus was WAY too high too ... appreciate the feedback confirming.

Having a hard time finding ANYTHING with a transmission other than the allison 545.

Anyone have dealers to avoid or dealers they recommend in case I am unable to find one straight from a school?

I see these on ebay a lot - anyone have experience with any of them?
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And what about this bus??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221608356083?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:43 PM   #16
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Had lengthy conversation with the guy who is selling this bus - it is fresh out of service, been well maintained and comes with service records, he runs a fleet repair center specializing in repairs and maintenance - is a state bus inspection facility and this bus is one he has been taking care of under contract with the school district.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221608356083?_t ... T#viTabs_1

I think this is the one for me ... he will also paint it and remove seats. I will have to have it shipped.

Anything jump out that says don't do it??
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:07 AM   #17
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Anything jump out that says don't do it??

yes it hydraulic brakes (ford lucas girlinghttp://www.schoolbusfleet.com/forum/...TOPIC_ID=24455) and the lines are rusty...I would not go this route, Air brakes for the win when your stopping 20k plus

it will be a beotch to work on with all that rust

just my .02
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:23 AM   #18
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Agreed. The default on air brakes is STOP. Air brakes > Hydraulic.
Plus they sound really cool.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:48 AM   #19
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Thank you for the heads up on the brake system ...
I researched those Lucas-Girling systems (via the link provided) and no one seems to like them.
I spoke to the man "brokering" the bus and he advised this was a Bendix 4 wheel disc (6 wheel??) - no abs - system.
I think I have photos of the lines under the bus but will confirm with him that I know what I am looking at - also have photos of the under carriage that he emailed me. It is rusty looking to me but I do not have a point of comparison.
The bus is NOT going to sell during this auction so I have some breathing room to think things through.
Thanks again for the comments - Much appreciated!!
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when hydraulic brakes fail, you have no pedal no brakes

if you loose air pressure, your alarm sounds, you stop bus immediately before the brakes "lock down" just as if you set park brake

this is why 99.999999% of heavy commercial vehicles use these, just want you to be informed
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