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Old 03-22-2016, 07:06 PM   #1
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New bus shell cost from factory?

Wonder what a new bus would cost, from the factory, if you spec'd it without seats, without all the school warning setup, no windows and just steel sides where the windows would be....... basically just a shell to build from? I'm thinking of something like a Thomas since they're built in NC. I'm guessing in the $50k-$60k range. Anyone have any idea?
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:36 PM   #2
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Depending upon type of bus, the length of the bus, and the options you want/need that cost will be anywhere from $70K to more than $100K.

Type 'C' buses will cost about $10K less than a Type 'D' FE and about $20K less than a Type 'D' RE.

The bigger the HP the more you will pay. Much like trailer tow packages on cars and pickups, when you order bigger HP it comes as a package. The package will come with a bigger transmission, bigger radiator, bigger transmission cooler, and possibly a bigger driveshaft.

Increased interior headroom can be optioned. I think Thomas has up to 24" more available. You can see some factory roof lifts on specialty buses like bookmobiles.

Transit slider windows with thermopane will cost more than school bus split sash drop windows. Tinted glass will be extra on split sash windows.

Window delete like a prison bus will cost more.

Air brakes will cost more than hydraulic brakes.

Larger brakes and auxiliary braking will cost more. Some auxiliary braking like exhaust brakes on a Cummins only cost about $150.00 more but it all adds up pretty quickly.

If you get air brakes rear air suspension is not a big cost option. It is standard on most Type 'D' RE buses. No air brakes and the air suspension option becomes a big cost option.

The current WA state price quote on a Type 'C' 60-pax bus is just over $88K. For a Type 'C' 77-pax bus the price is just over $93K. For a Type 'D' FE 84-pax bus the price is just under $100K. For a Type 'D' RE 84-pax bus the price is just over $112K.

Pass through luggage compartments add $3,200.00. Skirt mounted luggage compartments add about $1,300.00 per compartment.

Air ride seat adds $510.00.

240 AMP Leece-Neville alternator is standard. 300 AMP adds $950.00.

Vandal locks adds $350.00.

The standard floor is black. Non-standard floor is $1,200.00.

If you are serious about a brand new bus built without seats it is not going to be inexpensive. Ordering a bus right now you might see it before Thanksgiving if you are lucky.

You can usually go to a dealer like Midwest Transit and purchase a lease return for a considerable savings. It may not have every option you would like but they generally do not spe'c bare bones buses. The buses they get that get spe'c'ed with luggage compartments usually also come with big HP and highway gears. Year old buses save about $10K. Three year old buses about $30K.


I think the costs of seats might be around $5K
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Depending upon type of bus, the length of the bus, and the options you want/need that cost will be anywhere from $70K to more than $100K.

Type 'C' buses will cost about $10K less than a Type 'D' FE and about $20K less than a Type 'D' RE.

The bigger the HP the more you will pay. Much like trailer tow packages on cars and pickups, when you order bigger HP it comes as a package. The package will come with a bigger transmission, bigger radiator, bigger transmission cooler, and possibly a bigger driveshaft.

Increased interior headroom can be optioned. I think Thomas has up to 24" more available. You can see some factory roof lifts on specialty buses like bookmobiles.

Transit slider windows with thermopane will cost more than school bus split sash drop windows. Tinted glass will be extra on split sash windows.

Window delete like a prison bus will cost more.

Air brakes will cost more than hydraulic brakes.

Larger brakes and auxiliary braking will cost more. Some auxiliary braking like exhaust brakes on a Cummins only cost about $150.00 more but it all adds up pretty quickly.

If you get air brakes rear air suspension is not a big cost option. It is standard on most Type 'D' RE buses. No air brakes and the air suspension option becomes a big cost option.

The current WA state price quote on a Type 'C' 60-pax bus is just over $88K. For a Type 'C' 77-pax bus the price is just over $93K. For a Type 'D' FE 84-pax bus the price is just under $100K. For a Type 'D' RE 84-pax bus the price is just over $112K.

Pass through luggage compartments add $3,200.00. Skirt mounted luggage compartments add about $1,300.00 per compartment.

Air ride seat adds $510.00.

240 AMP Leece-Neville alternator is standard. 300 AMP adds $950.00.

Vandal locks adds $350.00.

The standard floor is black. Non-standard floor is $1,200.00.

If you are serious about a brand new bus built without seats it is not going to be inexpensive. Ordering a bus right now you might see it before Thanksgiving if you are lucky.

You can usually go to a dealer like Midwest Transit and purchase a lease return for a considerable savings. It may not have every option you would like but they generally do not spe'c bare bones buses. The buses they get that get spe'c'ed with luggage compartments usually also come with big HP and highway gears. Year old buses save about $10K. Three year old buses about $30K.


I think the costs of seats might be around $5K

Great info, thanks Cow. For that money you can buy a used Class A coach already outfitted. Might not be bulletproof like a school bus but will already be built and ready to live.
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Can buy a HELLUVA coach for less than that.
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Yeah, but then you have what most others have. "Dare to go your own way"
What a rush !! I have done my own thing the biggest part of my life, and at times it has cost me Family and friends and loads of money, am I happy Hell Yeah 99.9%
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Can buy a HELLUVA coach for less than that.
Oh but the inherent costs and problems you inherit with a coach are a whole different thing!
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IDK, man I've seen some amazing old rigs that I'd definitely rather be building out than a school bus. But my budget dictated the bus I got.
Had I $50k to spend, I'd not be as inclined to go with a low powered school bus.
To each their own. Just threw my 2cents in.
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IDK, man I've seen some amazing old rigs that I'd definitely rather be building out than a school bus. But my budget dictated the bus I got.
Had I $50k to spend, I'd not be as inclined to go with a low powered school bus.
To each their own. Just threw my 2cents in.

Are you trying to say that the reason we have to put up with you...ahem...you grace us with your presence and wonderful wisdom is because you're poor? Don't they have Power Ball or Super Lotto down in Florida? I'd kick in 20 bucks for some tickets.:a ngel:

Just threw in my 2 cents in. Just kidding...Kinda.
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