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Old 02-13-2017, 06:07 PM   #1
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I have found 2 buses, for a price that is amazing. Are either of them good for a conversion that we will be living in full time?

1. 2002 Thomas Built, 110,888, mileage, 84 passenger Metro style, Caterpillar 3126 diesel engine, allusion transmission.

2. 2000 Amtran, 125,454 mileage, 71 passenger, Metro style, International DT466 diesel engine, Allusion transmission.

According to seller, they run good with good tires.

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Old 02-13-2017, 06:55 PM   #2
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being out west.. which allison transmissions are they?

id choose the DT466 over the Cat-3126 esp if its an MT643 transmission
you also want to know which gears in the rear so you can determine the bus top speed
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:08 PM   #3
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I have found 2 buses, for a price that is amazing. Are either of them good for a conversion that we will be living in full time?

1. 2002 Thomas Built, 110,888, mileage, 84 passenger Metro style, Caterpillar 3126 diesel engine, allusion transmission.

2. 2000 Amtran, 125,454 mileage, 71 passenger, Metro style, International DT466 diesel engine, Allusion transmission.

According to seller, they run good with good tires.

TIA!
Are these front engined or rear?
#1 will be bigger. 84pax is probably 40'
#2 will be around 35'
Somebody correct me if I am wrong.
Without seeing them that's all I can tell you.
The Allison transmission: it depends on the trans model, the 545 is a 4 speed auto. The 2000/3000 is a 5 speed.
If you don't plan on hitting a top speed over 60-62 the 545 is pretty solid. The 2000/3000 are 5 speed auto and get a bit higher theoretical top speed and will get better fuel mileage with an overdrive (depending on rear gears).
Both have decent milage. Both motors are pretty solid and have thier fan clubs (I like the 466 because that's what I have had experience with in the past)
Once again I am sure if I got anything wrong someone will be able to correct me.
I am within a month of buying a bus. I spent days and weeks trying to find out which one was better... The answer is the one that works for you.

Hope that helps.
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I wonder what that transmission is an allusion of.
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I wonder what that transmission is an allusion of.
If it's a 546 it alludes to a slow bus? Lol

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I think the AT535 i saw somewhere is an allusion
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I think the AT535 i saw somewhere is an allusion
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Sure it isn't an illusion? 😂

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no.. if it was an illusion it would be an IT535
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Sorry, we totally hijacked this thread... I had good intentions though.

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I assume by Metro style you mean they are a Type 'D' transit bus with the service door in front of the front axle.

Type 'D' buses come in either front, midships, or rear engine. Each has pros and cons.

For your discussion, if the price is over $3,500.00 on either bus I would pass on them.

The Thomas is a well built bus but the Cat 3126 is not the first choice, second choice, or even third choice for most people.

The AmTrans of that vintage is a well built bus as well. But some of the smaller ones were put together really on the cheap, particularly if it is a front engine (FE) bus. I have seen them built with really small brakes, small transmission, and inadequate cooling systems--all perfectly acceptable for a route bus that never went over 35 MPH but not really adequate for going across the country.

I would hold out for a 40' bus with big HP and highway gearing. But that is just me.

Good luck.
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