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Old 08-16-2017, 03:45 PM   #1
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So we've since honed in on the size of bus and engine we are looking for and we found a guy selling this bus outside of Brevard NC. He has been tasked by the church he is part of to sell it. 1997 International 3800, No rust, dt446, allison trans, air brakes, only thing is its got 240,000 miles on it. He took us for a ride, the engine is strong brakes are nice and tight. It has a governor on it that limits the speed to 45mph, is this common for school use busses? Said he knows a guy that can turn it off. He's asking 5k for it. I was gonna shoot him $4k in cash. Thoughts?

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Old 08-17-2017, 03:42 PM   #2
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Engine sure is clean. Tires look dry to me $$$

1/4 million miles is a bunch, even on a good engine. Rebuilt?

What Allison transmission, they made a few???

Be very picky, will save you $$ and in the long run. I'd keep looking. Church's don't have fleet shops or much $$ for maint.

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Old 08-17-2017, 03:47 PM   #3
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So we've since honed in on the size of bus and engine we are looking for and we found a guy selling this bus outside of Brevard NC. He has been tasked by the church he is part of to sell it. 1997 International 3800, No rust, dt446, allison trans, air brakes, only thing is its got 240,000 miles on it. He took us for a ride, the engine is strong brakes are nice and tight. It has a governor on it that limits the speed to 45mph, is this common for school use busses? Said he knows a guy that can turn it off. He's asking 5k for it. I was gonna shoot him $4k in cash. Thoughts?

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Probably not a governor, most likely the rear axle gearing.
Sounds like a lot of money for a bus that will only go 45. Its a NC thing- their buses all are geared super low and thus have top speeds of 45-50.That's not even interstate legal. If it is the gearing plan on spending a grand or two to remedy that.
I'd pass. For four grand I just helped a guy find a DREAM bus. 1999 BB AA with MECHANICAL 8.3 Cummins, Air ride, 3060 trans, high headroom...
Avoid CL and dealers and just buy a nice one at auction.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:53 PM   #4
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I'd pass, too. Only 45 mph top end means some $$$ regearing. Dry tires are definitely a point of issue. Tires that size are money - and, by law, steering tires MUST be new.
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It has the inverted roof "fall" instead of the small roof "raise" from the factory. It will be almost mandatory to roof raise in order to gain the needed headroom you will be lacking. Between the short roof, low gears, dry rotted tires, I'd pass on it. The engine is good, but not for the kind of money you'll need to spend on the bus just to give it the bones required to make it a decent conversion.

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