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Old 09-03-2013, 08:13 PM   #11
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bansil - No, I wouldn't need any adaptive controls. If the parking brake was a tiny pedal right up near the drivers door, I would either need a few seconds to get to it, or a lever, but that's it. Thankfully on a bus, that is not an issue.

However, if I had a manual transmission, I might require some kind of adaptation. I'm not that good at driving a stick-shift, having only done it at auto auctions a few years ago. In my time there, I found Ford trucks (F-150, 250's) with a stick very easy to drive, with only a light touch on the clutch needed, and a very low learning curve to find the sweet spot. Some cars were nerve wracking, such as one with no discernible gear pattern on the shifter, and with the transmission internally messed up. I had dealers walking around the car in front of me, and had to back it out. Get it wrong, run over a dealer. Thankfully, I got it right.

I looked at browncrown's bus (and it's slick), however I hope to get something newer than 1976, which is 2 years before I was born, lol. A few questions about Crowns.

1) Why are they so desirable vs. other body manufacturers?
2) What years were they made?
3) Would getting an older one really suck, or is that not a bad thing?

Thanks.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:29 PM   #12
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A few questions about Crowns.

1) Why are they so desirable vs. other body manufacturers?
Because aesthetics.

Or my personal favourite reaction: OH DEAR SWEET LAWD THAT'S ONE BEAUTY OF A BUS! If that bus was a person they'd be a Super-Duper Model. I've had DREAMS about a Crown bus.

I can just really appreciate a Crown.

I've run some numbers, and after making a budget for the most expensive prices for the models of appliances and cabinets and tools and all the fun plumbing, and tanks (and hoping and praying I can get a good chunk off it a helluva lot cheaper second-hand), I'm looking at a good $8K for my Camper, not including the price of said vehicular nightmare. This blighter has to be able to move, and fast, in case of Hurricane/Medical Emergency. I've thought about converting an oversized ambulance but those are pretty damned expensive second-hand. A Bus would hold all my art supplies and the dog better anyhow.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:43 PM   #13
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. . . . I don't think the average bus wheelchair lift was designed for rider operation, they seem to assume a second person for use. I have a lift . . . In order to operate it, the bus has to be running in neutral with the parking brake engaged. Which simply requires a remote starter, no big deal I would guess. . . . Also the remote control for the lift is wired to the lift and has a little hook to hang it on the door which would be difficult to access from inside and closing the door from inside would be impossible once the lift is up as it fills the space. . . .
A shop that does car alarms and remote starters may be able to wire up the controls to an after-market receiver for a key fob transmitter that would allow one to run the lift from the chair. They would have to deal with a door mechanism as well, but nothing's impossible. . . .
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:01 AM   #14
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. . . . I don't think the average bus wheelchair lift was designed for rider operation, they seem to assume a second person for use. I have a lift . . . In order to operate it, the bus has to be running in neutral with the parking brake engaged. Which simply requires a remote starter, no big deal I would guess. . . . Also the remote control for the lift is wired to the lift and has a little hook to hang it on the door which would be difficult to access from inside and closing the door from inside would be impossible once the lift is up as it fills the space. . . .
A shop that does car alarms and remote starters may be able to wire up the controls to an after-market receiver for a key fob transmitter that would allow one to run the lift from the chair. They would have to deal with a door mechanism as well, but nothing's impossible. . . .
What an interesting idea. Also, a pleasure to meet a fellow bear.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:17 AM   #15
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this is part of what I was talking about
http://www.sfgate.com/default/articl...Vs-3910865.php
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:22 AM   #16
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With all these complications, some of you may be wondering why I still want to do this, and why I don't just keep my "very small apartment" and be happy. For a few reasons. One, I want a sense of the freedom to go wherever I want, such as out on national forest land, by a lake, etc. I have some traveling in mind. Two, I would feel pride at the sense of accomplishment in having done as much as I physically could to help build the conversion, which is something that not only have I never done, but also something that former friends of mine have said that I could never do. Three, after all this is done, if I choose to stay in one place or a close area for a while while I enjoy it, it can turn out to be much cheaper than paying over half my income just to rent in San Francisco.
What are you waiting for, I note that you said former friends.

I think that skoolie people are likely to be welcoming to you and any idea you may present as most of us are usually thinking "outside of the box" some maybe even outside of the whole shipping container at times.
A couple of things come to mind about a couple of your concerns.
An rv toilet can simply be installed on top of some sort of riser to make it higher.
The lift is most likely a Braun, they are available with radio controls and I'm sure they only use one basic lift with controls made to order. All of that is easily overcome.
Door latches and such can be operated with linear actuators.
As for the cost, it all depends on what YOU want or need, or are willing to put up with, and in your case what you are able to get done for you.
I have, just a guess, over $12,000 in mine so far including the cost of the bus. I do all of the work and fabrication myself and probably have most of the major purchases done, but my goals are much different than yours.
You might want to look up Ranger and Jin on http://www.rvnetwork.com/index.php? he can probably help you with some of the handicap issues.

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Old 09-04-2013, 11:45 AM   #17
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bansil - Yes, that article is disturbing. I had read it before you linked it, several months ago. There are some who live in vehicles of all kinds here, and while some respect the area, constrain their waste dumps to legitimate places, etc, some do not. And of course, the richer residents having seen this demand that the city "do something", which resulted in this legislation. For the record, while I do happen to live here (in an apartment), I do not plan to actually stay here parked on the street overnight, as it is 1) Too unfriendly, and 2) I have better places in mind, such as BLM campsites where I can enjoy nature, and similar. However, there is a "Homeless Bill of Rights" pending in the CA legislature. It has passed initial hurdles, and is awaiting a final vote, no later than September 2014. If it passes, it would almost instantly nullify local laws about preventing homelessness, and this includes laws that say that it is illegal to sleep in a vehicle, whether or not it is officially a motorhome or not. In addition, it would institute mandatory supports, such as places for people to go to shower and use the bathroom, which I feel can only be a good thing.

somewhereintheusa - What am I waiting for? For one, I am waiting for my savings account to build back up. Yes, I have noted the welcoming attitude, and I'm sure that people here are used to thinking outside of the box, or the shipping container, as it were. Yes, I'm sure that the toilet can be raised. As far as making the lift and possibly the doors operable by remote, I am sure that is doable, though I bet that it will cost me a lot of money. It's something that I will keep in mind, but that I am almost positive that I cannot afford until much much later. Thanks for the ballpark estimate, that's not too bad. I have planned to have a hair over 7k saved by July of 2014. I'm not sure of 12k, but I see no reason why I can't save that eventually. I will look into the link you provided, thanks.
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more reading
http://www.rvnetwork.com/index.php?showtopic=105873
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:36 PM   #19
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bansil -

*Reads article*
*Scrolls down, reads the long list of comments*

Ok. I see I'm going to have to get creative here and protect myself with a rental agreement between myself and a like-minded friend. This war on the poor is ridiculous.

Thanks for the warning.
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bansil -

*Reads article*
*Scrolls down, reads the long list of comments*

Ok. I see I'm going to have to get creative here and protect myself with a rental agreement between myself and a like-minded friend. This war on the poor is ridiculous.

Thanks for the warning.
Might be easier to move east a state
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