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Old 01-10-2014, 10:20 PM   #11
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Here in California there are a lot of school districts scapping out their buses do to 2014 diesel emissions, some are getting grants to crush buses but the grants are running out, maybe start going to school district transportation offices & just ask what their doing with their buses, I just recently scored a Crown that didn't go to the crusher but Redwood City I hear is getting ready to crush 2 of them, Start by asking
And these buses had to be off the road January 1 2014
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:41 PM   #12
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Here in California there are a lot of school districts scapping out their buses do to 2014 diesel emissions, some are getting grants to crush buses but the grants are running out, maybe start going to school district transportation offices & just ask what their doing with their buses, I just recently scored a Crown that didn't go to the crusher but Redwood City I hear is getting ready to crush 2 of them, Start by asking
And these buses had to be off the road January 1 2014
I should clarify ,Once the bus is registered as a RV it DOES NOT have to meet the diesel emissions regulations, These regs are only for commercial vehicles.
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:37 PM   #13
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Yes, I figured that was the case. How difficult is the process of registering a bus as an RV, and what is required to do it?
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:50 PM   #14
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Hey Plasma,

Two codes to go by and possibly even print up to bring with you when you do the inspection are:
V C Section 362 House Car http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d01/vc362.htm

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362. A "house car" is a motor vehicle originally designed, or permanently altered, and equipped for human habitation, or to which a camper has been permanently attached. A motor vehicle to which a camper has been temporarily attached is not a house car except that, for the purposes of Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) and Division 12 (commencing with Section 24000), a motor vehicle equipped with a camper having an axle that is designed to support a portion of the weight of the camper unit shall be considered a three-axle house car regardless of the method of attachment or manner of registration. A house car shall not be deemed to be a motortruck.

Amended Ch. 875, Stats. 1968. Effective November 13, 1968.

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Health and Safety Code Section 18010 Recreational Vehicle Manufactured Home Mobilehome Commercial Coach Truck Camper or Floating Home http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/app...af/hs18010.htm

Recreational Vehicle, Manufactured Home, Mobilehome, Commercial Coach, Truck Camper, or Floating Home

18010. "Recreational vehicle" means both of the following:


(a) A motor home, travel trailer, truck camper, or camping trailer, with or without motive power, designed for human habitation for recreational, emergency, or other occupancy, that meets all of the following criteria:

(1) It contains less than 320 square feet of internal living room area, excluding builtin equipment, including, but not limited to, wardrobe, closets, cabinets, kitchen units or fixtures, and bath or toilet rooms.

(2) It contains 400 square feet or less of gross area measured at maximum horizontal projections.

(3) It is built on a single chassis.

(4) It is either self-propelled, truck-mounted, or permanently towable on the highways without a permit.

(b) A park trailer, as defined in Section 18009.3.

(Amended Sec. 2, Ch. 566, Stats. 2000. Effective January 1, 2001.)

I'd recommend maybe going to Morgan Hill or Gilroy DMV or the closest to those cities. They're more likely to see stuff rolling up to their inspection lines that they'd probably flat out reject in an office say in Los Gatos.

I took ours to the local office and got referred to the CHP of all places. The CHP said they inspect busses, but not in that way. Just to make sure the commercial codes are being enforced.

I was told to maybe try Lodi who is used to seeing tractors and all kinds of other non run of the mill stuff and was out of there in about 30 minutes. Most of that was waiting for the people in front of me to get finished with their inspections. The inspector was very nice to boot. Very different from the local office.

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Old 01-20-2014, 12:27 AM   #15
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As far as timing, laws like CA excepted, I expect any school district or contract operator to run an old bus to the end of the school year, and set up any replacement in the summer break. If an operator is "dumping" a bus mid-year, my first impression would be that the operator would have considered it below usable condition, and not worth fixing by their standards. This could be anything from a blown transmission to needing a pair of new tires and not being worth the investment to them. If buying direct from a school district, or whoever took a trade-in, I would hesitate not to wait until the end of the year.

That said, finances may be another reason for getting rid of a bus mid-year. A district would normally keep better out-of-service buses as "spares," or even a source of spare parts for the "good" buses. But a private operator might find that due to insurance and required maintenance, trimming down the number of reserve buses on the lot may improve profits.

A bus that is already in private hands might become available at any time of the year. Perhaps one was used as tin tent during hunting season, and would be available after that. Or maybe a job change, move, new baby, or some other life event might trigger a sale by a private seller.

Each bus has its own story. There are some generalities, but you don't want a generality, you want YOUR bus. If you're not under a deadline, look until you find the right one.

p.s. Years ago, almost all buses were manual. Automatics gradually crept in and took over, probably as technology improved their overall fuel mileage.
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