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08-21-2016, 10:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Polished aluminum Alcoa 22.5 wheels...
What's the going price of these?
I found some for $200 a pop.
Although I have 6 wheels... Can I get by with the two inner rears being black painted steel? Or need to run all 6 aluminum?
What do I need to look for, as far as upgrading my 19.5's to 22.5's ?
(10 lug pattern)
Are all 10 lug patterns the same?
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08-21-2016, 10:53 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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The two inner wheels blacked out or steel look good from my house!
Btw chrome wheels make a bus look bad ace!
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08-21-2016, 10:57 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carytowncat
The two inner wheels blacked out or steel look good from my house!
Btw chrome wheels make a bus look bad ace!
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Kinda what I was thinking....
Put a couple super singles on the back..... Super Sexxxy!!!!
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08-22-2016, 12:05 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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Oh yeah, hubba hubba!
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08-22-2016, 01:50 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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You can run mixed aluminum/steel wheels. They make special plastic separators to put between them to prevent electrolysis between the different metals.
There's one main difference between ten-lug patterns. Some have "Hub Piloted" wheels and others have "Stud Piloted" wheels. The hub piloted wheels are most easily identified by the lug nuts having washers made into them. The stud piloted wheels use tapered lug nuts without any washers. You'll need the wheels to match whatever setup your bus has.
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08-22-2016, 06:48 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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chrome wheels do make a bus look great!.. ive seen some Blue-bird conventionals that were ordered that way.. and they look sharp even as a school bus
-Christopher
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08-22-2016, 11:19 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Houston, Tx.
Posts: 403
Year: 1999
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milkmania
What's the going price of these?
I found some for $200 a pop.
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Hey MM,
Did you find those locally by you or on the internet somewhere where anyone can buy them? Thanks.
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08-22-2016, 09:31 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 17
Year: 2002
Coachwork: BlueBird Comm'l shell
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Not all 10 lug patterns are the same. As has been said, there are basically two different patterns to look for, "Stud Pilot" centers or "pilots" the wheel on the studs, and "Hub Pilot" that pilots or centers the wheel on the hub (axle).
Back in the day the "Budd" style wheels are stud pilot with a tapered nut (inner nut for inside dual, outer nut for outer wheel of a dual), and the newer (some 1980s and up) use locating flats on the hub for both the inner and outer wheel (of a dual) and the "nut" with attached swiveling washer only "clamps" the wheels to the hub, but not center them.
If you are not sure, post a picture.
The stud pilot are usually 3/4-16" inner and 1-1/8" outer, and the hub pilot are metric 22mm stud threads
Steel/alum-many folks will run aluminun on the outside for looks and steel on the inside to save money.
$200 each is CHEAP for new wheels, but pretty steep for used wheels. In our area, used aluminum wheels sell for $125-150, and new from about $275 and up
Generally the stud pilot will have a 13/16" square drive inner and 1-1/2" hex out and the stud pilot usually have a 33mm hex, although there are some odd ones.
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08-22-2016, 09:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyboyHPD
Hey MM,
Did you find those locally by you or on the internet somewhere where anyone can buy them? Thanks.
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Semi-local... Couple hours away
http://texarkana.craigslist.org/wto/5733592215.html
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08-22-2016, 10:20 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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Its Craigslist... I often sell stuff for half of what i listed it for because... well it"s Craigslist and they ask "Would you take $xx?"
and i usually take whatever hey offer because i dont want to answer anymore !/&ß$&*@! calls!!
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08-23-2016, 03:42 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WNC
Posts: 96
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Can you upgrade your wheels from 19 to 22.5?
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08-23-2016, 06:57 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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those look sharp!! if I didnt have daytons id go for a set of those
-Christopher
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08-23-2016, 07:04 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainHooligan
Can you upgrade your wheels from 19 to 22.5?
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Dunno yet, it's on the 'future to-do list'
Gotta get the bus paid for first!
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08-23-2016, 11:36 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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JMO, I hate chrome, even as a teenager & people were dressing up their cars & trucks with chrome I was yuck. Me I want to drive it not polish it.
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08-23-2016, 03:38 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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https://imgur.com/Ti8dSht
https://imgur.com/mkrsyyO
Kinda like this....off a Pete. Gotta have some bling! Changed all six.
Had to change the studs, steel rims are thinner and the ministry here [Ontario] wants to see at least 2-3 threads.
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08-23-2016, 06:59 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WNC
Posts: 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDD
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Whoa... want.
You have a pic of the whole bus?
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08-23-2016, 07:17 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Like everything you do, Redd, those wheels are so badass, man!
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08-23-2016, 07:30 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainHooligan
Can you upgrade your wheels from 19 to 22.5?
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Don't see why not, guy in town here has 22.5's on a 1 ton dually. Not sure how he did it, he's running a low pro tire.
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08-23-2016, 07:38 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Like everything you do, Redd, those wheels are so badass, man!
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Thanks for the help CB, I think this computer stooge may have figured out how to up load pics a different way......time to play catch up with pics.
Capt. ....yes, but without the hub caps and nut covers. Bus has been sitting behind a fence since April...no real reason to move it at this point.
Sorry for the hi jack
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02-09-2022, 08:38 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 23
Year: 2007
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 29600
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For all of you that have Dayton style hubs& wheels, you can convert them. It costs about 1200.00 per axle, just talk to your local ' Six States' truck parts dealer. They are like a NAPA for heavy equipment. That price usually includes new drums, brake pads, wheel bearings , you have to supply the rims though.
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