Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-09-2016, 10:31 PM   #1
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 33
Pondering floor removal

I think I understand the reasoning behind removing the vinyl and subfloor in a bus project; to expose the metal deck and repair/convert any rust damage and to allow for insulation without losing overall height.

My floor in my rear engine thomas seem really solid. No evidence of rust from below, especially above the huge belly storage area, and no soft spots detected from inside.

This bus has extended ceilings. The ceiling height is 78 inches instead of the usual 72.

1) If it ain't broke why fix it?
2) I don't need to remove it to reclaim some height prior to insulating,
3) It would save me a TON of blood, sweat and tears.

Tell me why I'm wrong.
DT Rutledge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 11:02 PM   #2
Skoolie
 
Skoolydoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ft. Smith Arkansas
Posts: 141
Rated Cap: 2+1
Rust, is a funny critter, remember the governor in best little whore house in Texas.
Now you see me now you don't.
Rust can go completely undetected until you fall through.
Good luck
__________________
Don and Ellen
Plus one fuzzy faced kid (Poopcee)
Skoolydoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 11:23 PM   #3
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 33
Another factor is that this bus lived it whole live in the Pacific Northwest. We don't salt our roads here.
DT Rutledge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 11:59 PM   #4
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 12,171
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Ward/AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 78
At least get the rubber matting off. That stuff is nasty.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 08:15 AM   #5
Bus Nut
 
FlyboyHPD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Houston, Tx.
Posts: 397
Year: 1999
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 84
The final choice is obviously yours, but what you can't see can in fact be completely different than what you think it is. You don't mention where you live or where you plan on taking it when finished. But if it's going to be in freezing temps then that wood floor is going to get pretty cold without any insulation under it.
__________________
1999 International AmTran, DT466E, MD3060
https://flyboyrv.wordpress.com/
FlyboyHPD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 10:46 AM   #6
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 33
I live near Portland, OR. We are not known for our cold winters. It happens, but not often.

We will be fair weather travelers, for the most part, the Oregon coast during the summer fishing season, etc.
DT Rutledge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 02:52 PM   #7
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 323
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
I would at the least pull up the rubber flooring which then lets you see the
condition of the top side of plywood. My bus had no visible signs of floor
rust from the exterior but on flooring removal had a fair amount of pitting.
What happens with most buses is the cleaning crew gets in the bus with a
pressure washer and blows everything off the floor and out the door and
calls it good.There are numerous places in the bus that don't get enough
air circulation to dry out the excess moisture left behind by the cleaning so
it migrates down past the plywood and starts rusting the metal.
Dragonpop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 06:13 PM   #8
Bus Crazy
 
gbstewart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,171
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
get rid of it, the rubber gives off a smell, rip all down to the metal put a coat of paint on the metal, if there's rust fix it. you won't be sorry for doing it, but you may be sorry you didn't do it.
gbstewart
__________________
my bus build viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5931
gbstewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 07:21 PM   #9
Bus Nut
 
Jolly Roger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North carolina
Posts: 651
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Detroit 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart View Post
get rid of it, the rubber gives off a smell, rip all down to the metal put a coat of paint on the metal, if there's rust fix it. you won't be sorry for doing it, but you may be sorry you didn't do it.
gbstewart
Mine had NO visible rust under and no soft spots inside but when I took all of my flooring up I found big rust stains, some were from windows leaking and didn't show on anywhere else and some were unexplainable but they were there.
If you don't send your effort now then all your effort will be spent later tearing apart your finished whatever to fix a soft spot that wasn't there 5-years ago.
Clean it out, put eyes on and clean/fix/repair your foundation and then build or you can ignore it and keep in your head that it is not if but when.
Your structure is everything.
I am building to last so I got rid of everything and started with a clean slate. I know exactly what is under my feet, on my sides and over my head and if I had any question or reserve about what I was thinking of doing it didn't happen until I had a solution that I could do and never question again.
Good luck and HAPPY DECISIONS.
Jolly Roger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2016, 06:15 PM   #10
Almost There
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Silvana, WA
Posts: 69
Year: 1973
Coachwork: Gillig
Engine: DD 6V-71
You're doing a conversion, so what sense does it make to take that chance? It's your money, but piece of mind has a lot of value as well. I've been tearing my bus down this last week, if I'm being honest, the thought has occurred to me as well. But, its my money, and I want to make sure I'm not throwing any of it down the drain. 10 years from now, I'm fairly certain I won't regret the extra few days I spent making sure I had a solid starting point.
RyanM is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.