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Old 06-10-2019, 09:19 PM   #1
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Pros/cons of van style shorty vs dog nose shorty

Ya know, the Ford/Chevy van ones where the front part is a regular van? Dog nose as in like a full size bus, but short. NOT a van cutaway.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:39 PM   #2
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Interior space and carrying capacity are the 2 biggies. Obviously the van is smaller and has less weight carrying or towing capacity than a diesel dog nosed shorty.

Many other differences come into play when selecting the right vehicle that meets your needs. Plenty of great info on here regarding both types if you search it out.

I like the gas power of the van cutaway and ease of finding parts and garages to work on it.
On the flip side, with a diesel powered bus, the added issues of trying to find somewhere to get parts and fixed IF a breakdown were to occur out on the open road far away from my home shop outweigh any of the benefits found in a diesel.
The use of the internet is making parts locating faster and easier while sitting on the side of a hiway somewhere, but if something heavy needs to be shipped by truck vs UPS/Fedex be prepared to shell out some $$ and extend your wait wherever that might be. Towing also might come into play.

If you are able to work on either/both variants, the above points are basically moot.
Good luck in your search...
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:40 PM   #3
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Thanks for that, what’s moot?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:48 PM   #4
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Cutaway pros

I don’t know if this is entirely true, but none of the “grocery getter” transmissions like the Allison 545 to worry about. Every “big” little bus I found had that transmission.

Better fuel economy

In California, staying below 14001 GVWR, gets around the particulate filter rules without having to change the title to MH

Cutaway cons:

Getting to the engine to work on it. Expect to take the whole thing apart to work on it. This is a big con!
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:49 PM   #5
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Cutaway pros

I don’t know if this is entirely true, but none of the “grocery getter” transmissions like the Allison 545 to worry about. Every “big” little bus I found had that transmission.

Better fuel economy

In California, staying below 14001 GVWR, gets around the particulate filter rules without having to change the title to MH

Cutaway cons:

Getting to the engine to work on it. Expect to take the whole thing apart to work on it. This is a big con!


Forgive my stupidity, what is a grocery getter transmission?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:50 PM   #6
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Thanks for that, what’s moot?
Just a fancy word for never mind what was just said.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:53 PM   #7
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Just a fancy word for never mind what was just said.


Thanks. Im bad at phrases with stuff like that too
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:59 PM   #8
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Thanks for that, what’s moot?
Not adept at freeway travel, works better at town speeds.
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:05 PM   #9
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Forgive my stupidity, what is a grocery getter transmission?
That’s a tongue in cheek commentary on that transmission that has no lockout/overdrive so not good in the mountains. The kind, more experienced people on this site turned me on to that info
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That’s a tongue in cheek commentary on that transmission that has no lockout/overdrive so not good in the mountains. The kind, more experienced people on this site turned me on to that info


Oh. Would it make it through without damage or would it get destroyed in hills?
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