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Old 03-04-2013, 11:40 AM   #1
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Reality check - can I make it up hill?

We are converting a 28 foot "42 passenger" 1984 Bluebird into a burning man art car. We've almost completed an upper deck made of steel, 2x4's and 3/4" ply. The bus runs on propane.

As we plan for the rest of the conversion, we're starting to wonder if it's possible to make the bus so heavy that it won't make it over the hills. Can anyone offer some real-world perspective/experience?

Can someone with a similar powered vehicle share their curb weight post-conversion?

Prior to buying more lumber for the facade, we had the idea to throw lots of weight inside, go weigh the thing, and then drive over the biggest local hill.
Any other advice on planning for such a thing?

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Old 03-04-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
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Re: Reality check - can I make it up hill?

This will be neat when done...cant help other wise except to say "Good luck" and maybe faux fiberglass tree trunks for wt and so they can be taken off to stay under width and ht laws?
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:58 PM   #3
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Re: Reality check - can I make it up hill?

Figure the weight of the seats you removed plus the weight of a full load of kids at 150# each. I bet you'd have to work at putting that much weight back in.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:08 PM   #4
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Figure the weight of the seats you removed plus the weight of a full load of kids at 150# each. I bet you'd have to work at putting that much weight back in.
Did you see the size of the trees?
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:48 PM   #5
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Re: Reality check - can I make it up hill?

Trees will be fiberglass.

We estimate that the steel we will have added will be 700 lbs.

And then we intend to cover the sides of the bus in resawn or plywood (very thin).
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Re: Reality check - can I make it up hill?

My BB weighs 18040 pounds dry and it is 40' long. I have 10 acres in east Texas. The front of the property is a STEEP hill. I put it in low and make it up fine. And that is loaded with 120 gallons of Diesel, 60 gallons of water, and all our stuff. Hope it helps.
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Re: Reality check - can I make it up hill?

I like the idea you have for "The Tree House," can you share any more photos?
Now I am no expert, but the kids that bus was designed to haul adds up to over 3 tons.

Like roach711 said, I also think it would take a lot of art work to add up to the designed weight. I am looking forward to see more as you work on your project.

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Re: Reality check - can I make it up hill?

You aren't going to stall the bus out going up a hill. However, if you are pulling up a long hill you might start to see temperatures rising. That would be my biggest fear. Making sure you have adequate airflow, swapping to synthetic fluids, radiator misters, and stopping to give it a break can all help.
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Oh.....and post some pics as she comes along.....you'll be fine wt wise; it seems
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