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06-18-2017, 09:05 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Really nice build!
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06-18-2017, 09:35 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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Originally Posted by milkmania
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Very nice. I'd like to do something similar to mine but cost aside, I just don't know if it's wise. I have 14,000 hours and 300,000 miles on my engine, who knows how much longer she's got. I'd probably only do this to a much newer bus.
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06-18-2017, 09:40 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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With your engine, you have the option of at least that much more with an in frame (if needed). I know I will never get everything back I put into my bus, but the enjoyment of doing it and hopefully using it, is just what I need. So if I see something I like , and I can swing it, I will do it.
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06-18-2017, 10:25 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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That's true. I'm not sure if it was rebuilt once before or not, but it seems to run strong. I wish it were full mechanical sometimes
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06-18-2017, 10:38 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Originally Posted by Iheartbus
That's true. I'm not sure if it was rebuilt once before or not, but it seems to run strong. I wish it were full mechanical sometimes
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The only thing "e" should be the injection pump, if I am not mistaken. Just gives the fuel timing.
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06-18-2017, 11:28 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Bus therapy
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Originally Posted by Njsurf73
With your engine, you have the option of at least that much more with an in frame (if needed). I know I will never get everything back I put into my bus, but the enjoyment of doing it and hopefully using it, is just what I need. So if I see something I like , and I can swing it, I will do it.
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I'm on board with that.
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06-18-2017, 12:55 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Threadjack in 30 minutes...
Is it a record?!?!?
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06-18-2017, 01:42 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milkmania
Threadjack in 30 minutes...
Is it a record?!?!?
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Idk how this is thread hijacking, we are talking about the video and possibly doing it to our own busses...
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06-18-2017, 03:04 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
The only thing "e" should be the injection pump, if I am not mistaken. Just gives the fuel timing.
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there is no "injection pump" on a DT-466E , the injectors multiply the lift pump pressure internally.. and are electronically fired...
extra high oil pressure determines the amount of fuel pressure being pushed at the injector being fired.. it has 2 oil pumps.. the 'HPOP' high pressure oil pump provides oil at sometimes well over 1000 PSI to the oil rail in the head which is used for the fuel pressure multiplication..
the 'E' is the fact the engine is fully electronic control.. the Cat-3126, DT-466E, T-444E(Powerstroke 7.3), VT-365(Powerstroke 6.0), MaxxForce 7 all share the HEUI style of fuel management.
-Christopher
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06-18-2017, 03:12 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Northern California (for now)
Posts: 55
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Wonderful work.
Would have liked to see the image and video, but it's on photobucket which is insecure and a risk to access.
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06-18-2017, 03:22 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
there is no "injection pump" on a DT-466E , the injectors multiply the lift pump pressure internally.. and are electronically fired...
extra high oil pressure determines the amount of fuel pressure being pushed at the injector being fired.. it has 2 oil pumps.. the 'HPOP' high pressure oil pump provides oil at sometimes well over 1000 PSI to the oil rail in the head which is used for the fuel pressure multiplication..
the 'E' is the fact the engine is fully electronic control.. the Cat-3126, DT-466E, T-444E(Powerstroke 7.3), VT-365(Powerstroke 6.0), MaxxForce 7 all share the HEUI style of fuel management.
-Christopher
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Ok. I have it confused with the Cummins style pre-common rail systems.
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06-20-2017, 04:42 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 261
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas EF
Engine: Cat 3126
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I've seen photos of this and thought it was a tiny home on a trailer.
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06-21-2017, 10:20 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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I don't like his transition; too steep for my liking. The interior, especially the ceiling is awesome. Needs more windows in the rear of the bus. I think I like what's going on with the chimney. Looks like it branches off for heating thru the curve of the walls. I hadn't thought of that. I was thinking of wrapping it with copper coil and using the water for heating tho.
Very jealous of the life their daughter is going to live.
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06-21-2017, 10:28 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
Ok. I have it confused with the Cummins style pre-common rail systems.
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cummins are one thing I know very little about.. im sure the all mechanicals are similar to other all mechanical direct injection engines, Id be interested to learn how cummins electromic fuel management works.
-Christopher
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06-21-2017, 11:01 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
cummins are one thing I know very little about.. im sure the all mechanicals are similar to other all mechanical direct injection engines, Id be interested to learn how cummins electromic fuel management works.
-Christopher
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No very little about the common rail Style. I do know they still require a high pressure fuel pump. The injectors are controlled by solenoids. In the standard mechanical and earlier electronic... There is a Bosch rotary pump that fires each injector in time with the motor.
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06-21-2017, 05:04 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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All I know is if my electricity goes out, engine stops. That's what the E stands for to me lol.
This really is a sweet build but the amount of money he threw into it is a bit crazy.
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