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Old 10-02-2016, 07:00 PM   #1
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Rear turn signals not working?

Both of my front turn signals work fine, so I'm assuming it's not the relay.
They were working previously, and I haven't done much to mess with them in my conversion other than driving.
I replaced the bulbs, no fix.
I'm going to assume it's the ground right?
I don't have much electrical experience other than teaching myself about this bus with solar, my inverter and wiring breaker box. And then having an electrician to come see I did it right.

My problem is when I look into it I can't seem to find anywhere the ground would be? It's just one wire to the bulb. Maybe I'm retarded, please help!
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Old 10-02-2016, 07:02 PM   #2
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I have a 1995 international 3800, carpenter body. DT466

Anyone happen to having the wiring diagram for this or similar year?

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Old 10-02-2016, 07:09 PM   #3
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Our tail light quit working, and putting in a good bulb didn't help. Once we unscrewed the whole thing we realized that when we put it back together after painting the wire got pinched. Moved the wire to a more padded spot and it was fixed.
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Old 10-02-2016, 07:45 PM   #4
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check the header panel above the windshield behind the student mirror thats where my BODY wiring diagram is... for the carpenter body...mine was a bit hard to see so i took a high res picture with my phone and blew it up on my computer to read it...

could also be the hand-off connector thats behind the driver kick-panel as come partially loose.. do you know if you have brake and tail lights on the back of the body? theres a couple connectors in that kick area on the driver side.. I accidentilly unplugged one of mine when I was installingthe A/C.. and it killed my rear lights altogether..

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Old 10-02-2016, 08:41 PM   #5
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Cadillac, could the screw used to hold up the turn signal lights be the ground for the fixture? It only has one wire (positive) from the fixture.

If they could be, maybe that's my problem as the screws are rusty as heck.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:44 PM   #6
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sure can.. ive seen that happen too... also seen where water got in the sockets and they looked like crap inside with the bulb out..

are your signals separate fro mthe tail lights? if so, make sure you use a single filament bulb.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:54 PM   #7
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The whole bus is your ground. If you have rust (or paint) between two components (light housing and bus) it doesn't conduct and your light won't work.
As far as the wiring diagram my son-in-laws Thomas bus has the wiring diagram on the inside of the small door under the drivers window on the outside of the bus.
Hope this helps
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Old 10-02-2016, 09:21 PM   #8
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On our BB the multi-pin plug for the rear lights came unplugged. It lives behind the access door under the driver's window.
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Old 10-02-2016, 09:47 PM   #9
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Thanks everyone for the responses.

I'm going to
1. Clean up the metal from paint and dirt around the light fixtures.
2. Replace some rusty screws with new ones
3. If those don't work, follow the wire back as far as I can.

And 4. Apparently with by replacing them with LEDs previously I need a different relay for them to work properly. Might give that a go as well.
From what I read they still work with the regular flasher relay, but just flash really fast?
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Old 10-02-2016, 09:51 PM   #10
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they may, however usually theres enough other bulbs in the circuit on a bus to loasd the flasher down... at least on my bus, i have the front signal by the headlamp.. one up on the top of the fender, one on the side of the bus, and then the rear one..

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