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Old 02-19-2014, 02:30 PM   #21
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Yup, it would. Not really sure what alternatives one would use for wall coverings etc., if they wanted to avoid wood.
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:18 PM   #22
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Yup, it would. Not really sure what alternatives one would use for wall coverings etc., if they wanted to avoid wood.
I'm planning on using metal framing in my conversion, the framing isn't structal & should be lighter than wood framing then coving with paneling & carpet
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I think metal framing is a great idea. I'm referring to the wall coverings. You mentioned paneling, so I'm assuming wood?
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I think metal framing is a great idea. I'm referring to the wall coverings. You mentioned paneling, so I'm assuming wood?
Yes wood but I'm a long ways from that so things could change
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Interesting.

Again, I don't know much about this, but doesn't building with metal add a ton of weight? Something we're obviously concerned about with the whole 14' high issue...
No, metal would reduce the weight or the structure may weigh the same, but will be 10 x stronger.

When I do garage packages we calculate the weight for delivery. Wood structures always weigh 30% to 50% more than steel packages.

Engineered metal structures can be built lighter due to the way they put the bends in the steel. Bends add strength.

Can you visualize how how dumb it would be if someone built your car, truck, or bus out of wood. Oh wait, it would be a sticks and staples pile of junk we all chose to avoid by buying a bus.

Building materials should not absorb mouse poop and urine, spilled sewage, ect. That's why I'm still concerned when someone tells me the bleach they used to clean the mouse infested room. Meanwhile its soaked into the wood, and will never truly be "disinfected".

IMO wood is only suitable for aesthetically pleasing pieces like cupboard facings, some trims, thermal breaks, ect. That way when the worst happens, strip it out and replace without having to tear down the structure to truly repair the damage.

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I think metal framing is a great idea. I'm referring to the wall coverings. You mentioned paneling, so I'm assuming wood?
Yes wood but I'm a long ways from that so things could change
There are synthetic panels.

Spray foam can be shaved and a covering like a bondo or fiberglass scratch coat applied directly to the foam. Sand and paint. You could even sculpt the walls and corners into shapes of your desire.

Other things like FRP can be glued directly to Styrofoam with the right adhesive.

Thin sheets of steel can be substituted for plywood. Again adding folds into the metal yields incredible strength. By corrugating a piece of 18 gauge steel sheet, it go's from a flopping flimsy nothing, to a structural member that can hold a man with no support in the center. This would be a good way to build increadable strength into the interior walls.

Soon I will do my best to show alternative method of how to build a bus without using wood.

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Old 02-20-2014, 10:05 AM   #27
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I want to clarify one thing. When the op asked if building with metal would be heavier, I answered too quickly. I was assuming she was referring to heavy steel construction, but I should have clarified that if properly engineered (not just grabbing a bunch of square tubing and welding away ), steel can be a cost savings. I do agree with Nat that steel has potential to be much lighter than typical wood construction.

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Soon I will do my best to show alternative method of how to build a bus without using wood.

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While I don't feel this is the only way to build a bus, I am actually looking forward to seeing how you build your bus. I think it will showcase a lot of alternative building methods for people.

I personally built our first home and it was a gorgeous log house with all wood wall coverings inside, and I loved it. I would build another in a heartbeat, so suffice to say, I am a little biased

Back to the op and their bus... You have a bus with a wood interior. Most of us here have buses with wood interiors. Most houses have wood used heavily in their construction. Rats are not a new problem and while I understand that stuff can soak into the wood, I wouldn't even think twice about it if it were my bus. Actually, my bus was parked on a farm for a year and I had mice get in around the engine cover and make a mess. I cleaned and sanitized and kept building I have no doubt there is dried **** in the walls

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So I just posted pictures of our before and after if anybody's interested...
http://www.littlebusontheprairie.com...ii-big-reveal/
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Wow

What a difference. Great Job.

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