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03-13-2017, 07:12 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 113
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Regarding the panels around engine compartment in a re
I've got spray foam insulation coming next Monday and I'm wanting to do this build right.
The panels on the sides above the engine compartment are all super riveted down, which isn't a problem, I just don't no I'm able to remove sure if there's something and I should just leave those up. I just don't know what I can do with this area, we are going to Wood panel all the rest of the sides and ceiling, would like to do it in that area as well as our bed will be on top of the engine compartment. Wanting to do cupboards above theemergency exit If I could get some more info and if any of you know what's under all that I'd appreciate it. I'm finding nothing so far
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03-13-2017, 07:32 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Possibly use 1" furring attached to the area to build it out and use rigid insulation there?
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03-13-2017, 07:58 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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i took the one out on the back wall but left the ones over the motor. i sprayed the engine cover also with foam and the wheel wells. see my pics below. get all your prep done before you start and keep moving around. its real easy. where a good mask and gloves and put lotion on any exposed skin.good luck and have fun
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03-13-2017, 08:09 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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I pulled all of those interior skins on mine.
I'll snap some pics for you and post them up in the morning.
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03-13-2017, 08:16 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Wow.
Dave, I'd noticed before that you had an 8.3, but had never seen the length of your bus.
With the lighter weight of a shorter bus, I'd imagine that thing must be pretty quick to get up to speed.
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03-13-2017, 08:18 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rameses
Wow.
Dave, I'd noticed before that you had an 8.3, but had never seen the length of your bus.
With the lighter weight of a shorter bus, I'd imagine that thing must be pretty quick to get up to speed.
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His bus is powerful, and its got a similar wheelbase to my 40FE so its super maneuverable compared to a 40 foot RE.
Its also got a brand new jasper engine.
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03-13-2017, 08:27 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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yes it does, tops out at 60 @2300 rpm. does great on these hills
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03-14-2017, 01:30 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rameses
I pulled all of those interior skins on mine.
I'll snap some pics for you and post them up in the morning.
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Thanks a whole lot, always appreciate your help
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03-14-2017, 01:32 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superdave
yes it does, tops out at 60 @2300 rpm. does great on these hills
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Dave why does it top out at 60? It must be a regulator of some sort I imagine. I've got the 8.3 and can keep a steady 80 and I'm at 40ft .... I bet you can get to 60 whole lot faster than I can
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03-14-2017, 01:34 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superdave
i took the one out on the back wall but left the ones over the motor. i sprayed the engine cover also with foam and the wheel wells. see my pics below. get all your prep done before you start and keep moving around. its real easy. where a good mask and gloves and put lotion on any exposed skin.good luck and have fun
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Dave did you also leave the ones on the wall to the sides and above the engine box?
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03-14-2017, 06:27 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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i ran out of time on the small pieces around the small windows on the back of the bus but plan on taking them out before i finish the back. i left the engine intake on the right, i dont have anything on the left.
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03-14-2017, 06:37 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wutm8
Dave why does it top out at 60? It must be a regulator of some sort I imagine. I've got the 8.3 and can keep a steady 80 and I'm at 40ft .... I bet you can get to 60 whole lot faster than I can
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ya its governed at 60, fast enough for me. i was getting 8.2 mpg in Florida, 7.3 here in the mountains. on a mountain grade if i can hit it full speed im doing 50 at the top. just weighed the bus , 19560
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03-14-2017, 06:43 AM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superdave
ya its governed at 60, fast enough for me. i was getting 8.2 mpg in Florida, 7.3 here in the mountains. on a mountain grade if i can hit it full speed im doing 50 at the top. just weighed the bus , 19560
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Only 19.5? Dang, man that's not bad at all.
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03-14-2017, 12:08 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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It looks like your intake ducting is much slimmer and flatter against the wall than mine. Yours is essentially what I was thinking of building.
On mine the air filter comes up thought from the engine compartment and plugs into that duct box that opens to the louvers in the outer skin.
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03-14-2017, 12:12 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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The opposite wall has the same internal structure, minus the ducting and louvers.
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03-14-2017, 12:15 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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The metal pieces around the small windows are pretty thin and don't seem to do anything to keep the window in place. I think they're simply trim.
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03-14-2017, 12:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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The inner rear cap skin was just held with screws, but had lips that were tucked behind the wall skins.
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03-14-2017, 12:21 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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The rear shelf was one of the most important pieces to remove in my mind, because the new interior surface needs to be at the same height as the original shelf in order to be able to easily access the handle for the rear emergency window.
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03-14-2017, 12:30 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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The front skin of the bench (down by the floor) is most likely getting left in place. I can see any real benefit to removing that. I'll just insulate over it and treat it as though it were the outer skin.
The formed red pieces of steel that run side to side are pretty beefy, so I'll be leaving those in place to aid in structural integrity. I'll also definitely be maintaining engine access through that hatch even though it'll mean moving my bed if I ever need to use it.
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03-14-2017, 12:32 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wutm8
Thanks a whole lot, always appreciate your help
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Glad to help. Let me know if there's anything you want or need better detail shots of.
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