Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-12-2004, 10:46 PM   #1
Mini-Skoolie
 
staggerlee917's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
Posts: 37
Year: 1976
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: International
Engine: International Loadstar
Rated Cap: 60
Removal of rear heater core

I would like to remove the heater core in the rear of my 1980 Ford Blue bird. The guy who sold it to me told me that if i do this, i risk the engine overheating. Is this true?
Also.... how do i plug the coolant hoses?

Anyone come up with creative ideas for thier heaters?

Thanks,
Keith
staggerlee917 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2004, 12:12 AM   #2
Bus Crazy
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 1,838
Send a message via AIM to Steve
If you remove the heater core you can just cut a bolt to plug the hose and clamp it in.

On my bus I use the rear heater in the winter, but obviously I don't want all that warm water running through the interior during the summer. So I have a valve on the two hoses that run through the interior heater cores. I just close it during the summer when I don't need the heat. I have never had a problem with overheating, the radiators on buses are huge.

Here is a picture that shows the valves, they are different because that is just what was around.

__________________
View my 1972 Ward: Topic from the Build : The Picture Gallery
View my 1986 Blue Bird: Topic from the Build : The Picture Gallery
View my 1960 GMC: Topic from the Build : The Picture Gallery
Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2004, 10:02 AM   #3
Bus Nut
 
Les Lampman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington (USA)
Posts: 465
Keith,

I don't think you got good info on that deal. As Tullamore said, most buses and trucks have shut-off valves since you don't want hot coolant running through the heater cores in the summertime (even without the blowers going they radiate a lot of heat).

And...the chassis/engine/cooling system is likely to be just the same as the medium duty truck the bus is based on and most of them will not have the extra heaters the school bus does; they're designed to cool with just the radiator.

I know my skoolie's rear heaters are coming out!
__________________
Les Lampman
1982 Thomas Saf-T-Liner Pusher "Illusion"

Skoolie.net Gallery
Illusion's SmugMug site
Les Lampman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2004, 11:54 AM   #4
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 245
I pulled out our rear heater ...cut the hoses leading back to it and bought a heater hose loop and fittings ...
Here's a couple of pics of how I did it...

Can anyone see any problems with a setup like this ?
Thanks Folks

http://www.mobilehomestead.com/newbu...eaterhose1.jpg

http://www.mobilehomestead.com/newbu...thoseloop1.jpg
__________________
Are you questioning my Aaa-thoritttyy ?
soused moose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2004, 11:58 AM   #5
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
Why remove the rear heater? The heat that comes from the engine coolant is free. How do you plan to heat the bus when it's driving down the road in cold weather??

I live in Michigan, perhaps you're in a different climate. If i'm not utilizing the rear heater,(ie: it's heating water in the jacuzzi instead of the air) i find it necessary to fire up the propane furnace to compensate. I often think how silly it is to spend money on propane to make heat while my bus engine is wasting heat to the atmosphere. I need a second heater core!

Most big trucks and buses i've looked at have valves under the hood to close the loop going to the heater cores during the summer.

If your engine (gasoline most likely) were to start running hot, perhaps while climbing a mountain or crossing the dessert while pulling a heavy load ect, turning on all the heaters in the bus would help significantly with cooling the engine, (while at the same time roasting the occupants)

I don't forsee any adverse effects on the engine from removing the heater core....just thougt i'd give ya some food for thought.
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2004, 11:07 AM   #6
Bus Nut
 
Les Lampman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington (USA)
Posts: 465
Quote:
Originally Posted by lapeer20m
Why remove the rear heater? The heat that comes from the engine coolant is free. How do you plan to heat the bus when it's driving down the road in cold weather??
'Cuz it's a great big honkin' ugly thing...both of them!

I'm going to utilize hot coolant for heating just like the bus heaters do but I'm using Heatercraft stainless units that are sized more appropriately. A couple of the kick-space (under cabinet) units will go in the kitchen 'L' (one facing aft, the other forward) and another ducted model will go under the rear bed with a duct to the bathroom and one in the center "hallway". The units I'm using have high efficiency (low draw) blowers to keep the electical demands down. When the bus engine isn't running, hot coolant for the system will be supplied by the propane water heater which has a coolant loop in it; main heat for the bus is the Dickenson Antarctic diesel heater/fireplace in the livingroom area of the bus.
__________________
Les Lampman
1982 Thomas Saf-T-Liner Pusher "Illusion"

Skoolie.net Gallery
Illusion's SmugMug site
Les Lampman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2004, 03:09 PM   #7
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
That sounds like an excellent setup ! I wish i had a diesel furnace.
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2004, 12:39 AM   #8
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 448
Take a look on Ebay someitimes you can find the cheap. Also bus wrecking yards will have them sometimes. It seems like a lot of people I have talked to are able to get them at a decent price in the northern states where bus companies use them.
busone is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rear hydronic heater & under bus piping DaveLind Heating, Cooling and Appliances 5 10-12-2014 11:48 AM
Rear cap removal SmokinJ Conversion Tutorials and How-to's 2 08-10-2014 07:35 AM
Heater Core logistix Cummins Drivetrain 5 06-15-2011 09:51 AM
Rear Heater Valves Elliot Naess Conversion General Discussions 0 09-18-2009 08:49 PM
Need rear heater glock17 Classifieds | Buy, Sell, Swap 3 10-26-2005 10:42 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.