Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-13-2004, 02:26 AM   #1
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 448
On a regular full size bus the bolts go all the way through the floor. So I would imagine that would be the same case for a van bus. Some people use a impact wrench and some do it by hand. Others will just cut the heads of the bolts with an angle grinder. I guess it all depends on what tools you have and how much rust you have.
busone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2004, 05:26 AM   #2
Mini-Skoolie
 
AK-Brando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Valdez - The snow capital of Alaska
Posts: 55
I recently removed the seats from my full size bus, and the bolts going through the floor had nuts on the underside of the floor. They weren't difficult to remove, just required an extra person to hold the nut from under the bus. I used hand tools to remove them and had no problems.
__________________
Brian
'91 Thomas/Ford B700 7.8L Diesel 5-speed (seats removed)
My Bus Pics
My Bus Blog (hasn't been updated in a LONG time)
AK-Brando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2004, 03:58 PM   #3
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
Seat removal was one of the most miserable "projects" i encountered when transforming my skoolie. I tried using an impact wrench to remove seats but there was enough rust to keep them from turning. Some of them broke, some of the heads got stripped off. After about 3 or 4 seats, i went to work with an angle grinder and cut the tops off of all the bolts inside the bus. The angle grinder is my preferred method. you can purchase one for realitvely little money if you don't already own one. Even if the only thing you use it for is removing the bolts for the seats, it's worth every penny.
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 11:20 AM   #4
Mini-Skoolie
 
AK-Brando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Valdez - The snow capital of Alaska
Posts: 55
Sounds like I got off easy taking the seats out of my bus! All it took was a couple of socket wrenches and two of us had all the seats unbolted in about 2 hours. I don't know if the fact that my bus was undercoated or kept parked inside or even low mileage made any difference or not.
__________________
Brian
'91 Thomas/Ford B700 7.8L Diesel 5-speed (seats removed)
My Bus Pics
My Bus Blog (hasn't been updated in a LONG time)
AK-Brando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 09:35 PM   #5
Mini-Skoolie
 
AK-Brando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Valdez - The snow capital of Alaska
Posts: 55
Yes, I had one person hold the nuts from underneath, while I turned them from inside the bus. My bus came from the interior of Alaska, so it's not subjected to the salt air around the ocean, so it has very little rust, if any.
__________________
Brian
'91 Thomas/Ford B700 7.8L Diesel 5-speed (seats removed)
My Bus Pics
My Bus Blog (hasn't been updated in a LONG time)
AK-Brando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2004, 12:39 PM   #6
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 31
Seat Removal

I am surprised that so many have had a difficult time removing the seats. My son and I really had a fairly easy time removing seats from my Blue Bird and his Ward. One bus was used in Idaho and the other in Utah. Both places have snow and salt. Oil the bolts a few days before you start might help.

But, I have an idea that is related to seat removal. I've seen the question about what to do with the holes that are left when the seats are out. I plan to use some of the holes for holding on blue-board insullation. Think about it. Get some long bolts (cheap grade will do), some big, fat washers, the boad and you are on your way to a warmer (or cooler) bus. I have to plan this around my tank installation. I'm not sure what order this will be done in.

Herb in Utah--
Skoolie BOBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2004, 11:04 AM   #7
Almost There
 
glock17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Carroll, IA
Posts: 72
Send a message via MSN to glock17
with a large enough impact wrench the bolts will either come of normally or break off, either way they come out fairly easily with the right tools.

not a wal-mart special impact wrench either. get a decent brand name.
glock17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 10:01 AM   #8
Skoolie
 
vonslatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 177
With a rear engine bus I'm finding that a majority of the seat bolt nuts are inaccessible behind fuel tanks, air tanks and other hardware that is all mounted between the frame rails since there is no drive shaft there.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining - the area between the skirt and frame is absolutely vacant - installation of tankage will be a piece of cake!

I am having trouble with the angle grinder though - I've been breaking cut-off wheel at a high rate. The bolts in my bus have a forged flange around the head so there is a lot of material to get through. Tonight I'm going to try using the grinding disk to remove part of this flange and then switching to the cut-off wheel to cut the bolt.

Since I'm always working in the dark, one tool thta has helped me greatly is my Black Diamond Xenix IQ LED headlamp - this thing is amazing, the LED is easily as bright as a 2 D cell MAG light and lasts 10 hours on it brightest setting with 2 AA batteries.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... s&v=glance

Cheers,

Jake.
__________________
My 1989 Thomas Saf-T-Liner
vonslatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2005, 10:39 PM   #9
Skoolie
 
pangaia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Low Desert Mountains, So. California
Posts: 111
Ok....

I will be picking up my bus this friday and propably as soon as I get back I'm gonna be looking for tools to take those seats out. Using a grinder sounds like a great idea. However, I will be really the only one working on the bus.

What kind of tools will I need other than a grinder to remove all but two seats?
In fact what basic tools do most skoolies use in conversion?
__________________
'Before you go out seeking revenge you must first dig two holes'--Chinese Proverb
-------------------
Bright Blessings of the Mother upon you ;)
----------------
1990 International Ward Volunteer "Fantastic Voyage"
pangaia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2005, 08:40 AM   #10
Skoolie
 
vonslatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 177
Quote:
In fact what basic tools do most skoolies use in conversion?
Simple answer - all of them! Over the past week or so more and more of my tools have migrated from the garage to the bus.

The grinder trick worked well. I affixed the grinder disk and then proceeded down the aisle grinding off the front 1/3 of the bolt heads, 2 on the forward leg of each seat and the front bolt on the back. I then turned around and ground off the back 1/3 of the rearmost bolt on each seat. Then I switched to the cut-off disk and cut the the bolt heads. With this method I used 6 or 7 cut-off disks to get all the seats out. The key with the cut-off disk is to take your time and push only directly side-on, any lateral pressure and the disk is in danger of shredding. Oh yeah - wear eye and face protection and ventilate the bus. I wore a respirator and was glad for it.

The outer bolts were clean and accessible so a 1/2" Socket and 1/2" box wrench were all I needed. My bus had seat belts and the seat bottom hinged up for access after turning a latch on the bottom - this made getting to the bolts quite easy.

My angle grinder is a smallish 4 1/2" DeWalt that I bought for about $50 several years ago. A larger grinder would have worked better, you might consider renting a 7" grinder. Be careful with it, use the guard and keep it the hell away from your clothing.

Many years ago I got my shirt caught in a big grinder and it climbed my chest, wrapped itself up in my shirt with my hand still clamped to the switch. It ended up at my throat, jammed and humming evilly, straining as though alive and eager to bite into my flesh - um sorry, I'm little too into the Dean R. Koontz novel I'm reading I think!

Cheers!

Jake.
__________________
My 1989 Thomas Saf-T-Liner
vonslatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

« Air Idea | Tranny »
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Removing those seats the_experience03 Conversion Tutorials and How-to's 33 07-30-2016 07:49 PM
Removing Governor? chefjuke Ford Drivetrain 9 10-28-2012 11:17 PM
Removing Floors pipsqueek Conversion General Discussions 3 10-04-2010 01:51 PM
removing tow hooks TygerCub Conversion General Discussions 5 08-14-2009 07:10 PM
Removing Rivets oldog12 Everything Else | General Skoolie Discussions 3 05-25-2007 11:45 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.