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Old 12-12-2016, 12:40 AM   #1
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repower options

hey all, just finished reading redman's latest video and i hope he's back up soon.

inspired from that video, the question is what are the repower options? i guess, when i'm in the same spot, i want to have a plan. whats the smart money on keeping the coach and repowering the motor.

i've seen used 5.9 cummins for sale from under $1k to 4-5k. i see in craiglist a local builder that will swap in a rebuilt cummins for 5k+labor. and i see the brand new bulletproof $12k motors that redman was talking about.

what does the wisdom of the forum say for getting through a repower as easy as possible?
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:24 AM   #2
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you mean dred?the reality of his situation hit me also, more so than some of you. he did a minimal conversion and may just be the smartest person on this forum. im dumping tons of cash in mine knowing its a money pit worth nothing to anyone else. so with that said what if the motor goes, what if the tranny goes. change the motor only to have the tranny go 100 miles down the road. where does it end?what if someone runs a red light and t bones my bus, their insurance wont give me squat! will it be close to home or 2000 miles away. too much to think about my brain is flipping around. best case is it blows up in my barn, i would find another bus with the same motor and tranny and use it for parts. wont know till it happens. i may just buy a micro bus and move to co. like everyone else.
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:30 AM   #3
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This is one of those individual choices. And of course it depends if you are stuck in your own driveway or stuck on the road far away from home.

With some basic tools, space, and time, then my preferred option would be the in-frame rebuild. An in-frame is exactly what it sounds like: you can rebuild the motor without ever removing it from the chassis on some busses. The DT466 comes to mind. This is where having a long-nose bus comes in very handy.

High-quality in-frame kits run about $1,200. If the head(s) need freshening-up, you'll need to send them out at addl cost. Figure on a solid week of turning wrenches. There are lots of good videos out there on YouTube somyou can become "expert" at the process before getting greasy.

If this isnt your cup of tea, then mostly complete remanufactured engines start about 4-5 grand. Or you can get a "turnkey" (everything except the ECM and harness) for about 2x that. Warrantee is usually very good. I think if you have the cash, this seems like a good long-term option to me.

Finally there are "pulls" from busses that are being scrapped. These engines are literally cut out of the bus before the shell is crushed for scrap. They are a mixed bag. Some will run strong for another 100k miles, while others may never leave your driveway.

I guess its a judgment call, really. No way to call it in advance unless you were to buy a pull motor, rebuild it during your leisure time, and strap it to a crate for storage against future need.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:31 AM   #4
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hey all, just finished reading redman's latest video and i hope he's back up soon.
Would you mind linking to the post for context? I'd like to see what he's up to, but can't find the post...
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:23 AM   #5
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Would you mind linking to the post for context? I'd like to see what he's up to, but can't find the post...
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:25 AM   #6
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the video i was referencing is

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f39/od...tml#post175361

from the previous posts, i suppose location is the biggest obstacle. if it were planned, then i think i'd cough up the money and leave it here:

https://denver.craigslist.org/ptd/5847803232.html

would it be worthwhile to buy one of those cut outs motors and swap in your own time?

how hard is it to change the motor?

i suppose my biggest fear is to head to skooliepaluza and have to abandon my bus like dred. last thing i want to do is turn quartzite into a skoolie graveyard.
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Its a real HUGE job to get the engine out. Would almost need a specialized, dedicated facility setup for such operations.
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I pulled and replaced mine in a tin shed with an A-Frame hoist I built. Did most of it working alone. Called in a friend to help design & build new motor mounts but that was about it. I was in no big hurry but it all took about a week and a half.

But keep in mind, a dognose is much easier to pull than a flat nosed or RE.
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like Dred, mine is also a flatnose.
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To my mind...anyone planning on servicing their own flatnose or RE would be well advised to also acquire a forklift at the time of purchase.

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