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11-27-2019, 11:44 AM
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#21
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marceps
The riverter banman linked ratchets mandrels really well. Pneumatic riveters are nice to have but not necessary for 3/16" stainless.
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Unless you're installing 200 rivets at a time, your hand will thank you.
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11-27-2019, 02:51 PM
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#22
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marceps
The riverter banman linked ratchets mandrels really well. Pneumatic riveters are nice to have but not necessary for 3/16" stainless.
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Speak for yourself
I wound up with two air riveters. One 1/4" and one 3/6".
It took me about a dozen 3/16" rivets in and my tendinitis shut me down.
If you are considering doing a roof raise I would recommend a pneumatic rivet gun.
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11-27-2019, 03:06 PM
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#23
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Speak for yourself
I wound up with two air riveters. One 1/4" and one 3/6".
It took me about a dozen 3/16" rivets in and my tendinitis shut me down.
If you are considering doing a roof raise I would recommend a pneumatic rivet gun.
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Oh absolutely! If you're doing a large amt of metal work at once like re-installing the roof or wall panels you want power tools! pneumatic or electric --
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11-30-2019, 03:12 PM
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#24
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: N. CA
Posts: 2
Year: 2007
Chassis: International
Engine: 6.0L Power Stroke V8
Rated Cap: 20' interior
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Is 6mm a thing for rivets?
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11-30-2019, 04:03 PM
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#25
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by randemonium
Is 6mm a thing for rivets?
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Rivets come in numerous sizes of SAE and Metric. 6mm is slightly less than 1/4". They make a 6.3mmm rivet, which is 1/4"
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12-08-2019, 03:09 PM
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#26
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 3
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How many ss rivets do you have? Interested
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12-08-2019, 09:20 PM
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#27
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marceps
The riverter banman linked ratchets mandrels really well. Pneumatic riveters are nice to have but not necessary for 3/16" stainless.
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Speak for yourself
40 or 50 - 3/16" stainless steel closed end rivets with the ratcheting manual tool might be ok but the number of rivets I set justified buying not one but two pneumatic rivet guns.
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12-09-2019, 05:34 AM
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#28
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Texas there is no other place
Posts: 3
Year: 83
Engine: Chevrolet
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Rivets
ok first off i need to know the best pop rivet gun that doesn't give me trouble.
Second question is will i need a person on the inside with a bucking bar like repairing a boat?
I don't have much help so getting someone to hold the backing bar will be a chore.
Third... where is the best place to buy the rivets as im figuring on about 5k.
Thank You all for the abundant knowledge
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12-09-2019, 05:37 AM
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#29
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldeman
ok first off i need to know the best pop rivet gun that doesn't give me trouble.
Second question is will i need a person on the inside with a bucking bar like repairing a boat?
I don't have much help so getting someone to hold the backing bar will be a chore.
Third... where is the best place to buy the rivets as im figuring on about 5k.
Thank You all for the abundant knowledge
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Harbor Freight 3/16" and 1/4" pneumatic riveters are cheap and get the job done. I'd get (and did get) the 1/4" one since it can also do 3/16".
You don't need a bucking bar at all for pop rivets.
www.rivetsonline.com
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12-09-2019, 08:47 AM
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#30
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I use the HF air rivet gun, can't beat it for the price. i got the bigger one that can do 1/4 inch rivets even though they're impossible to find locally.. Currently waiting on a shipment in fact.
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12-09-2019, 08:55 AM
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#31
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
I use the HF air rivet gun, can't beat it for the price. i got the bigger one that can do 1/4 inch rivets even though they're impossible to find locally.. Currently waiting on a shipment in fact.
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I'd have GIVEN you as many as you wanted Josh!
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12-09-2019, 11:01 AM
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#32
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Texas there is no other place
Posts: 3
Year: 83
Engine: Chevrolet
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Some people say they didnt like the HF rivet guns....Is there a reason that you might know of? i will be ready in a few weeks so i want all my ducks in a row..
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12-09-2019, 11:12 AM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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like all hf tools some just randomly suck.
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12-09-2019, 11:37 AM
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#34
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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The only gripe I have with mine is the pin for the lever fell out at some point. I shoved a rivet stem in there and went on with my life.
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12-09-2019, 11:51 AM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldeman
Some people say they didnt like the HF rivet guns....Is there a reason that you might know of? i will be ready in a few weeks so i want all my ducks in a row..
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You often have to double-chooch each 3/16" rivet (and always with the 1/4" rivets) to get the mandrel to snap off, so it can be slow-going (I don't know if this is because of the gun or my compressor). For me, though, everything else about riveting (fitting, drilling, glopping etc.) is so time-consuming that having to pull the trigger twice for each rivet is not a huge problem.
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12-09-2019, 11:55 AM
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#36
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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While you do typically have to pull the trigger multiple times, I don't think it's a negative. it has x amount of travel per pull.
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12-09-2019, 12:33 PM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Interesting.........
I have had a few rivets that took two pulls with the HF rivet guns but not very many.
They are definitely a low end option but I have been surprised at how well they work.
I bought two 1/4" guns and changed one of them to 3/16". If one does I can still use both 3/16" and 1/4" rivets.
I used mostly 3/16" rivets but wherever a rivet hole got reamed a bit I upsized to 1/4". It was handy not having to change gun setup to switch between rivet sizes.
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12-09-2019, 01:31 PM
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#38
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Texas there is no other place
Posts: 3
Year: 83
Engine: Chevrolet
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Stainless Steel Rivets
do we have to use stainless steel rivets everywhere? on some of my other stuff that i had used stainless the paint NEVER sticks for a long time. ANy advice will be GREATLY appreciated....
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12-09-2019, 02:13 PM
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#39
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Depends on the grip length of the rivet on how many pulls it takes. Gun is set up for short length.
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12-09-2019, 03:03 PM
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#40
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldeman
do we have to use stainless steel rivets everywhere? on some of my other stuff that i had used stainless the paint NEVER sticks for a long time. ANy advice will be GREATLY appreciated....
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You have two options. Stainless Steel or aluminum.
SS work great in our application. Aluminum rivets in steel can be a problem due to galvanic corrosion.
Someone posted in a other thread stating that the corrosion issue was an old wives tale.
I beg to differ.
My Bluebird had some interior rework done using aluminum rivets. I used a air chisel to remove the interior rivets. The heads of the steel rivets cut off clean. The badly corroded aluminum rivets didn't cut off. They smeared like putty.
I
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