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Old 04-16-2017, 09:14 PM   #1
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Rivet gun , rivets and re-skining

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I'm about to take all the windows out since I'm getting new windows and I think the rivets used on the bus outside some are steel and they are quite hard so I don't think my flimsy rivet gun could install those back, can someone point me out what kind of gun should I buy to be able to install those rivets ?

What kind of sheet metal usually are found in the bus ? ( 18 gauge medium ?)

What are the size of the rivets used ? ( mine is a 2002 bluebird )

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Old 05-16-2017, 08:23 AM   #2
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Hi.

I'm about to take all the windows out since I'm getting new windows and I think the rivets used on the bus outside some are steel and they are quite hard so I don't think my flimsy rivet gun could install those back, can someone point me out what kind of gun should I buy to be able to install those rivets ?

What kind of sheet metal usually are found in the bus ? ( 18 gauge medium ?)

What are the size of the rivets used ? ( mine is a 2002 bluebird )

Thanks.
Someone needs to get to answering these questions!!
Searching for "rivet" returns too many hits.

Pepe,
I'm getting close to this point myself. I want to buy some Cleco fasteners but want to buy the right size. I know the rivets inside are a different size than the ones on the outside. The outside steel ones measure 1/2" in flared head size I think. No idea the barrel size or whatever it is called. I want to say 3/8ths for the aluminum ones on the inside.


I've been told the ribs are 14 gauge and the new skin should be 18 gauge. I know NOTHING about rivet guns.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:51 AM   #3
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I'm doing this right now too. I ended up settling on 1/4 aluminum closed end blind rivets. Using 18 gauge steel for the skin. I wanted to do 1/4 solid steel rivets but the price of the rivet gun to handle 1/4 rivets was super expensive. Harbor freight has a pneumatic riveter that will handle 1/4" blind rivets. I plan on picking one up this week. Clecos are also colour coded. Couldn't tell you what colours are what size though.

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I'm doing this right now too. I ended up settling on 1/4 aluminum closed end blind rivets. Using 18 gauge steel for the skin. I wanted to do 1/4 solid steel rivets but the price of the rivet gun to handle 1/4 rivets was super expensive. Harbor freight has a pneumatic riveter that will handle 1/4" blind rivets. I plan on picking one up this week. Clecos are also colour coded. Couldn't tell you what colours are what size though.

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don't use aluminum rivets on steel, man.
Use steel or stainless.
I bought a ton of 1/4" rivets but half mine turned out to be 3/16". You have to know exactly how thick the metal will be so you get the right grip range.
The HF gun will do just fine, mine works well. Ignore the warning on the box about having to fill it with oil. They come FULL. Its just a CYA statement.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:05 AM   #5
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I really wanted to use steel but couldn't find any closed end steel rivets. I did see closed end stainless rivets, maybe I should have just paid the premium for the stainless steel

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I really wanted to use steel but couldn't find any closed end steel rivets. I did see closed end stainless rivets, maybe I should have just paid the premium for the stainless steel

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Do you NEED 1/4" or 3/16" ?

https://www.boltdepot.com/Blind_rive...l_mandrel.aspx

this is where I got my rivets-
Closed End Blind Rivets | Rivets In Stock
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:17 AM   #7
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I drilled holes for 1/4 already, so unfortunately need 1/4". The price is what drove me towards aluminum. I ordered from the same place you did. I'll see if I can change my order for stainless. Hopefully it hasn't shipped yet.

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Those are great resources! Did you use the sealed rivet?
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My caliper needs batteries but why is the head of these listed as a range? .0475 ~ .525 With just a tape measure, they were close to 1/2" on the outside.
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Those are great resources! Did you use the sealed rivet?
Absolutely. SS closed end.
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